Message from @Jym
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That seems unlikely
It's also not a matter of the Twatter
But harassing employees etc.
No I meant a couple hundred million in that demographic. "Standing up to" Sam is not really my point but rather exposing Sam (or Joe or any number of others) to people outside of their culture is more the matter I was addressing. Harassing employers is really not that big a deal. I could likely go on Indeed and find a higher paying job in a month or two if it came to that. At that level skilled experienced personnel are valuable and Twitter mobs have a very short half-life.
Dude
People can lose their jobs if they don't watch out who they talk to, what they say, etc., in these talks
Peterson himself got severely harassed just because he gave one heartfelt speech
The door to his office was jammed shut
I'm not sure but didn't he also lose his job?
"Harassing employers is not a big deal" is just so wrong, it's just a terrible thing to say
As if people's livelihoods aren't dependent on that
Not everyone has the fortune of becoming a celebrity like Peterson and receiving a lot of donations
If you don't enjoy that privilege, then your life can fall apart
That's precisely why Harris worked for so long before he finally opened his mouth about the riskiest topics
And in fact, Peterson can still become homeless any day, he's not set for life at all, and he's not safe
Or take someone like Count Dankula
One video made him completely unemployable
It wasn't even political speech, he made a joke
One that actually mocks Nazis, and that was used to call him a Nazi
These real life consequences speak very clearly, public appearances and voicing political views are high risk low reward ventures for most people
I mean that is more of an issue if you *are* someone in the postgrad/100K club. Take like Bogossian. He's in trouble because his career is as an academic and academia is in that small club. I'm in heavy industry and XYZ mid-level industrial producer does not even *have* a PR department.
It's an issue at every level
Lindsay Shepherd is another example. She also has mouths to feed, if only her own, idk.
It's an open secret that certain papers are advised not to be published so as to not harm one's own career chances.
Lindsay's career *in academia*?
Generally, not just in academia
Employers don't want trouble, is this news for you?
Imagine having to feed several mouths
What risks are you willing to take?
It's easy enough to test. Any one of these people could put out a casting call for people who are in the demographic.
Oh please
I'll take your words seriously when you walk the walk
I'd go on any of those shows in a heartbeat.
What's your current occupation?
Do you have kids?
Just so I know what your risk is
I am in heavy industry. We build capital goods. I have been doing this for more than a decade.
So low risk in that regard, and no kids since you didn't mention it, so another low risk
So at least I wouldn't *not* recommend putting yourself out there, after all you don't have much to risk.
I'm only saying it's easy for you.
Other people don't have that privilege of being lone wolves or having low financial risk
It's not that uncommon. Look I can give you an example. I got celled here for posting a meme that was considered 'NSFW'. My *boss* thought it was funny and likely the *owner of the company* would have laughed at it. Because outside of academia very few people consider these things to be serious offenses. We are too busy making things that work.