I mean who knows let’s consulte those who wrote it down 30 years later, in the bible

Peter > Chris

@SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck welllll yeah

@lunemarie AFAIK, it was closer to like 100

@lunemarie You don’t need to justify your faith.
Christians who attempt to “prove” their faith only cheapen it.
But, atheists who go around trying to “disprove” Christians are wankers.
Don’t do that. Don’t screw with peoples faith unless their faith is screwing with you.

I bet Jesus was a trap because traps are holy

@HitchSlapped! I dunno, I like Peter fine but I disagree on the God question.

You do need to justify belief yes

You don’t need to justify your faith.

Yes you do

It’s faith.

Fair Enough im still iffy about God Question myself

@Scale_e that's the entire reason I do so. Their faith does tend to screw with me. I rarely bring it up unless someone else does.

>“Jesus was heading his way, and Zacchaeus wanted to see what he was like. But Zacchaeus was a short man and could not see over the crowd. So he ran ahead and climbed up into a sycamore tree.”
GG, Jesus was average to below average in height

That’s the whole point. You can’t prove it. You aren’t supposed to prove it. It’s *faith*.

Just, like, live and let live man

So if you have faith in communism it’s justified?

Except for the immigrants.

@HitchSlapped! I just think his brother was better at getting his points out.

@Scale_e then why do they keep trying to prove it? XD

“I dont need to justify this thing but other people need to justify theirs”

Side note: I dislike "is god real" question, it's better formulated as "is god true"

@lunemarie Communism leads to starvation and genocide.
Christianity leads to western civilization.

And I’m saying that *as an atheist*.

Christianity leads to kiddy fiddling and murderous oppression

Not that the question of realness vs being true isn't a good question, but it too often leads to sidetracking.

God is real, from a certain point of view

The Enlightenment lead to western civilisation

Christianity leads to the bastardisation of legends and cukture

No, kiddy fiddling and murderous oppression happens *despite* Christianity. Big difference.

@Scale_e that's basically true, but not entirely.

Ah yes because before the enlightenment Christians didn’t oppress people

@lunemarie the enlightenment required Christianity I believe

Think of all of the cool things that got swallowed by Christianity and painted as evil like Necromancy

Or pagan holidays

Nature Worship

Define "oppress" and "people"

big-tiddy demon chicks

Without Christianity... more or less oppression in the world?

Less