Message from @leavethisbotnet

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2019-09-18 15:33:52 UTC  

Irreconcilable ideologies cannot coexist

2019-09-18 15:34:12 UTC  

Marxism does not tolerate the existence of Liberalism.

2019-09-18 15:34:23 UTC  

How illiterate are you? Spreading communism to the whole world was literally the soviet doctrine.

2019-09-18 15:34:39 UTC  

Then let them try to do that

2019-09-18 15:34:43 UTC  

You can not care about them, but they certainly cared about the US

2019-09-18 15:34:44 UTC  

Liberalism therefore cannot tolerate the existence of Marxism

2019-09-18 15:34:51 UTC  

It doesn't give us the right to do the same

2019-09-18 15:35:10 UTC  

They had no right to do what they were doing in the first place

2019-09-18 15:35:29 UTC  

@leavethisbotnet And i don't think it was their doctrine actually because Stalin adopted a policy of Socialism in One State

2019-09-18 15:35:39 UTC  

>the USSR was all too keen to go to war https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Blockade

2019-09-18 15:36:06 UTC  

I suppose we should have just let them starve?

2019-09-18 15:36:11 UTC  

And yet Stalin was still pushing the expansion of Marxism-Leninism

2019-09-18 15:36:16 UTC  

It was their policy. _Explicitly_ so.

2019-09-18 15:36:21 UTC  

on paper

2019-09-18 15:36:26 UTC  

So?

2019-09-18 15:36:36 UTC  

you just claimed that it wasn't

2019-09-18 15:37:02 UTC  

Is your argument that because they were forcing their ideology on other countries we should just do the same?

2019-09-18 15:37:14 UTC  

And also where was it their policy?

2019-09-18 15:37:29 UTC  

Socialism in one country was about not getting rid of the idea of countries.

2019-09-18 15:37:43 UTC  

“So?” “Where was it their policy?” <:thunk:462282216467333140>

2019-09-18 15:37:57 UTC  

If a robber is making his way into your house, you have the full right to stop him.

2019-09-18 15:38:01 UTC  

that's my argument

2019-09-18 15:38:12 UTC  

and SSSR was doing just that

2019-09-18 15:38:28 UTC  

We should have nuked China like McArthur said we should TBH

2019-09-18 15:38:40 UTC  

or, at least they explicitly stated that that's their goal

2019-09-18 15:38:42 UTC  

If a robber is breaking into someone else's house, you're within your right to stop him

2019-09-18 15:38:43 UTC  

Stalin believed in Marx's prediction that Socialism is the natural evolution of Capitalism and thus that all Capitalist countries would inevitably become Socialist countries which is why he did not believe it should be forced as much as Trotsky did

2019-09-18 15:38:50 UTC  

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

2019-09-18 15:39:02 UTC  

"as much"

2019-09-18 15:39:09 UTC  

@2K professional procrastination

2019-09-18 15:39:13 UTC  

Nice

2019-09-18 15:39:28 UTC  

We're literally arguing about intervening in the spread of Marxism-Leninism that was backed BY STALIN

2019-09-18 15:39:30 UTC  

MEPs don't have the power to make that determination

2019-09-18 15:39:41 UTC  

They have tho

2019-09-18 15:39:44 UTC  

Nope

2019-09-18 15:39:51 UTC  

It's for the European Council to decide

2019-09-18 15:39:52 UTC  

if a member state doesnt like it

2019-09-18 15:39:55 UTC  

can veto it

2019-09-18 15:40:06 UTC  

We should Veto it

2019-09-18 15:40:11 UTC  

I agree