Message from @викингмункй

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2019-09-19 09:54:23 UTC  

tl;dr ... written laws arent safer because politicians will still circumvent/abuse them.

2019-09-19 09:55:22 UTC  

Ch4 has the comments turned off

2019-09-19 09:55:24 UTC  

sigh!

2019-09-19 09:56:12 UTC  

They probably still remember the "Cathy Newman vs. Jordan Peterson" desaster ... and dont want to pay moderators to delete comments.

2019-09-19 09:56:22 UTC  

Reminder the supreme court will vote the prorogation legal.

2019-09-19 09:58:44 UTC  

"Article 57. Respect for the individual and protection of the rights and freedoms of citizens are the duty of all state bodies, public organisations, and officials. Citizens of the USSR have the right to protection by the courts against encroachments on their honour and reputation, life and health, and personal freedom and property."

2019-09-19 09:58:57 UTC  

USSR just simply redefines what property means 😛

2019-09-19 09:59:55 UTC  

The one really great thing in our german constituion is THE RIGHT TO RESIST ... which was added to protect the country from "changing the system" by a dictator. Every german is empowered to "resist", although it isnt stated HOW. This bit is something you should make sure to be included if you get a written constitution for Britain.

2019-09-19 10:00:44 UTC  

We'll be sure to word it better.

2019-09-19 10:00:50 UTC  

@wacka Well ... there is probably another article which allows the state to take your property ... and if you dont have any the state doesnt need to protect it again.

2019-09-19 10:01:12 UTC  

"Article 61. Citizens of the USSR are obliged to preserve and protect socialist property. It is the duty of a citizen of the USSR to combat misappropriation and squandering of state and socially-owned property and to make thrifty use of the people's wealth. Persons encroaching in any way on socialist property shall be punished according to the law"

2019-09-19 10:01:26 UTC  

Yes ... make it foolproof against "using the letter of the law to defeat the spirit of the law" ... i.e. lawyerthink.

2019-09-19 10:01:28 UTC  

They take you instead, since you're also property of the state.

2019-09-19 10:02:49 UTC  

Nope, no written constitution.

2019-09-19 10:03:37 UTC  

looks like the USSR had their version of article 50....

2019-09-19 10:03:40 UTC  

"Article 72. Each Union Republic shall retain the right freely to secede from the USSR."

2019-09-19 10:03:47 UTC  

rofl

2019-09-19 10:04:20 UTC  

So ... the USSR was more/as democratic as the EU?

2019-09-19 10:04:54 UTC  

Same thing right?

2019-09-19 10:05:23 UTC  

USSR, EU... both have similar structures.

2019-09-19 10:05:33 UTC  

And ways of doing things.

2019-09-19 10:05:51 UTC  

Of course ... the EU is a communist organisation, because communism = internationalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletarian_internationalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale

2019-09-19 10:06:11 UTC  

no the USSR was more...free

2019-09-19 10:06:11 UTC  

@wacka Well, that article 50 was totally correct. You had public buildings at your disposal and you could use the radio. Just be sure to tune in the proper stations and really, if you get arrested, it's only your fault <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-09-19 10:06:16 UTC  

The EU isn’t communist silly

2019-09-19 10:06:18 UTC  

observe...

2019-09-19 10:06:23 UTC  

Nor is it undemocratic

2019-09-19 10:06:29 UTC  

Article 80. A Union Republic has the right to enter into relations with other states, conclude treaties with them, exchange diplomatic and consular representatives, and take part in the work of international organisations.

2019-09-19 10:06:57 UTC  

Article 81. The sovereign rights of Union Republics shall be safeguarded by the USSR.

2019-09-19 10:07:03 UTC  

Hue. Am silly. I am offended, gunna call 999 and report a hate crime.

2019-09-19 10:07:55 UTC  

the EU does not have an article 80

2019-09-19 10:08:04 UTC  

we cannot make our own trade deals

2019-09-19 10:08:16 UTC  

At one point, Czechoslovakia had a much better economy then the rest since inbetween wars it was like the fifth most developed country in Europe. The rest of Soviet Union couldn't catch up. Sooo they devaluated the currency overnight to like 30:1 and in larger amounts even more than that.

2019-09-19 10:09:01 UTC  

Don't forget how the Czechs tried to prematurely get rid of communism and then got fucking slapped.

2019-09-19 10:09:02 UTC  

Ummm ... the EU is NOT DEMOCRATIC ... and I quote Martin Schulz (former president of the EU parliament) for that as evidence. He once said "if the EU was a country applying for EU membership ... the application would have to be rejected due to lack of democratic substance." (my translation) https://www.welt.de/kultur/article119362024/EU-ist-ein-Mietshaus-mit-dreister-Erpresserkultur.html

2019-09-19 10:09:30 UTC  

Hey Prometheus, Weez was being ironic.

2019-09-19 10:09:33 UTC  

Just look at how Ursula von der Leyen became president recently ... all BACK DOOR DEALINGS IN SECRET.

2019-09-19 10:09:38 UTC  

Right, yet it’s objective fact that we vote in free and open elections.

2019-09-19 10:09:56 UTC  

But yeh.

2019-09-19 10:10:01 UTC  

Well ... I am german ... so I tend to miss that.