Message from @Death in June

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2019-09-28 20:00:39 UTC  

Maintain a balance

2019-09-28 20:00:48 UTC  

Slavery damages the freedom of the slaves

2019-09-28 20:00:56 UTC  

Doesnt matter

2019-09-28 20:01:00 UTC  

what does the gov do about it?

2019-09-28 20:01:02 UTC  

Nothing

2019-09-28 20:01:05 UTC  

they cant in your world

2019-09-28 20:01:11 UTC  

Preserving Freedom should be the only goal of the state

2019-09-28 20:01:16 UTC  

The slaves will just have guns.

2019-09-28 20:01:29 UTC  

That's impossible since the state in its very nature removes freedom. @The Electric Lizard

2019-09-28 20:01:32 UTC  

That would work

2019-09-28 20:01:34 UTC  

i agree

2019-09-28 20:01:47 UTC  

the state must uphold the freedom of the laborer against the tyranny of capitalists

2019-09-28 20:01:55 UTC  

So it simply preserves as much freedom as possible

2019-09-28 20:02:02 UTC  

@Death in June Filthy Communist

2019-09-28 20:02:17 UTC  

i'm not a communist

2019-09-28 20:02:21 UTC  

i'm just an anti-capitalist

2019-09-28 20:02:24 UTC  

like thomas jefferson

2019-09-28 20:02:47 UTC  

What is your actual ideology and preferred system then?

2019-09-28 20:03:05 UTC  

@Death in June if I'm not going to get any money for people using my intellectual or physical property why would I let them use it?

2019-09-28 20:03:22 UTC  

i'm a centrist, i lay in the middle ground between integralism on the right and national bolshevism on the left

2019-09-28 20:03:56 UTC  

cause it's not urs silly

2019-09-28 20:04:12 UTC  

I don't think you can really say that you are a centrist while also saying that you are near National Bolshevism

2019-09-28 20:04:26 UTC  

i would just say third position

2019-09-28 20:04:28 UTC  

if you want a label

2019-09-28 20:04:34 UTC  

"your property is not your property" -communists

2019-09-28 20:05:31 UTC  

'Taking what business owners have worked for is not theft but paying workers agreed upon wages is theft'

2019-09-28 20:05:56 UTC  

theft is just whatever the people with the most guns decide it is

2019-09-28 20:06:08 UTC  

No it isn't

2019-09-28 20:06:17 UTC  

Theft has a pretty clear definition

2019-09-28 20:06:27 UTC  

Taking someone else's property

2019-09-28 20:06:28 UTC  

Who sets that definition? @The Electric Lizard

2019-09-28 20:06:31 UTC  

Is Theft

2019-09-28 20:06:48 UTC  

and what constitutes someone's property is decided by the people with the most guns

2019-09-28 20:06:52 UTC  

Society

2019-09-28 20:07:03 UTC  

or in older times people with the most horses

2019-09-28 20:07:12 UTC  

If a group of people with guns take property from those without it is theft

2019-09-28 20:07:26 UTC  

yeah but what makes it their property

2019-09-28 20:08:15 UTC  

They have proclaimed it to be theirs before others have

2019-09-28 20:08:31 UTC  

And have probably built things there

2019-09-28 20:08:44 UTC  

the fact that they were physically in possession of it?

2019-09-28 20:09:12 UTC  

what makes their claim legitimate? and what does it mean to "physically possess" something?