Message from @Weez

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2019-09-28 23:54:36 UTC  

https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22002-12171%22]}

2019-09-28 23:55:08 UTC  

Looks like a nice bullshit explaination tbh

2019-09-28 23:55:21 UTC  

I can accept that

2019-09-28 23:55:26 UTC  

so its not pedo to sleep with a 9 year old as long as you stay with them. right.

2019-09-28 23:56:33 UTC  

She would have to prove that he was attracted to pre-pubescent children, she failed to do that

2019-09-28 23:56:48 UTC  

but the core problem is that the court is saying that it's not ok to defame historical religious figures, which means it is siding with a blasphemy ruling

2019-09-28 23:56:49 UTC  

If she was going label him as she did.

2019-09-28 23:57:05 UTC  

All the information we have about this dead cunt say he is

2019-09-28 23:57:22 UTC  

It is essentially a blasphemy law

2019-09-28 23:57:22 UTC  

The hadiths? <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-09-28 23:57:32 UTC  

Written 50+ years after his death?

2019-09-28 23:57:35 UTC  

That evidence?

2019-09-28 23:57:53 UTC  

"As for the context of the impugned statements, the seminars had been widely advertised to the public on the Internet and via leaflets, sent out by the head of the right-wing Freedom Party, addressing them especially to young voters and praising them as “top seminars” in the framework of a “free education package”. The title of the seminar had given the – in hindsight misleading – impression that it would include objective information on Islam. Anyone interested in participating had been able to enrol and as such the applicant could therefore not have assumed that there would only be like-minded people in the room but also people who might be offended by her statements."

2019-09-28 23:57:55 UTC  

More context.

2019-09-28 23:58:12 UTC  

it doesnt matter if its true or not, its a blasphemy ruling. is it illegal to say that jesus was a known child murdered?

2019-09-28 23:58:20 UTC  

No

2019-09-28 23:58:24 UTC  

Click on the link I sent you

2019-09-28 23:58:24 UTC  

Not islam enough

2019-09-28 23:58:26 UTC  

And actually read it.

2019-09-28 23:59:00 UTC  

From that quote you postes

2019-09-28 23:59:02 UTC  

"The applicant had subjectively labelled Muhammad with paedophilia as his general sexual preference, while failing to neutrally inform her audience of the historical background, which consequently did not allow for a serious debate on that issue, and had thus made a value judgement without sufficient factual basis."

2019-09-28 23:59:06 UTC  

>Defamation

2019-09-28 23:59:37 UTC  

it seems to be based on the fact your cant have objective info on old as shit religious stuff

2019-09-28 23:59:39 UTC  

"Even if they were to be classified as factual statements, she had failed to adduce any evidence to that end."!

2019-09-29 00:00:09 UTC  

"Moreover, the applicant had been wrong to assume that improper attacks on religious groups had to be tolerated even if they were based on untrue facts. On the contrary, the Court had held that statements which were based on (manifestly) untrue facts did not enjoy the protection of Article 10."

2019-09-29 00:00:13 UTC  

So essentially, if I said God murdered thousands in in genesis

2019-09-29 00:00:18 UTC  

I could be charged with defamation

2019-09-29 00:00:25 UTC  

Even if I was preaching my relgion

2019-09-29 00:00:26 UTC  

God wasn't a living person

2019-09-29 00:00:38 UTC  

God was emboddied

2019-09-29 00:00:52 UTC  

numerous times in the bible

2019-09-29 00:00:54 UTC  

for the analogy you do have to pick a person who provably existed

2019-09-29 00:01:10 UTC  

"In addition, the impugned statements had not been phrased in a neutral manner aimed at being an objective contribution to a public debate concerning child marriages but rather amounted to a generalisation without factual basis."

2019-09-29 00:01:12 UTC  

<:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-09-29 00:01:19 UTC  

"Muh freedom of speech!"

2019-09-29 00:01:48 UTC  

"Thus, by considering them as going beyond the permissible limits of an objective debate and classifying them as an abusive attack on the Prophet of Islam, which was capable of stirring up prejudice and putting at risk religious peace, the domestic courts had come to the conclusion that the facts at issue contained elements of incitement to religious intolerance. They had thereby put forward relevant and sufficient reasons and had not overstepped their – wide – margin of appreciation."

2019-09-29 00:02:11 UTC  

Here is a better one

2019-09-29 00:02:13 UTC  

That last one is where I draw the line.

2019-09-29 00:02:16 UTC  

Cain killed Abel

2019-09-29 00:02:20 UTC  

Im a criminal

2019-09-29 00:02:22 UTC  

an abusive attack on the prophet of islam. so, blasphemy then.