Message from @Joshu

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2019-09-28 23:45:14 UTC  

and we'll be gone from it

2019-09-28 23:45:22 UTC  

if it isn't already here to some extent, defacto blasphemy laws

2019-09-28 23:45:22 UTC  

They're articles 15 and 17 now ;P

2019-09-28 23:45:39 UTC  

Those would violate the EU fundamental citizens rights @system11

2019-09-28 23:45:42 UTC  

Hence won't happen

2019-09-28 23:46:51 UTC  

Honestly once we are gone, I couldnt care less what they do

2019-09-28 23:47:01 UTC  

The regulation will also go to the EU courts and will be shot down

2019-09-28 23:47:05 UTC  

If it goes bad for them? Well told em so

2019-09-28 23:47:06 UTC  

For violating citizens righrs

2019-09-28 23:48:15 UTC  

already started

2019-09-28 23:49:09 UTC  

"a crime in Austria"

2019-09-28 23:49:56 UTC  

The ECHR upheld it

2019-09-28 23:50:07 UTC  

Which means the ECHR approved

2019-09-28 23:50:49 UTC  

Which means austria were not stopped from violating the rights of this person, which then means that right is not something the ECHR recognises

2019-09-28 23:52:23 UTC  

the more power that goes to europe, the closer we get to european speech laws (and many others) becoming a real thing, and the less people in countries who suffer these laws, have any say in them

2019-09-28 23:53:22 UTC  

At least they'll get thier avacados and save 15 mins a few times a year on holiday

2019-09-28 23:53:24 UTC  

/s

2019-09-28 23:54:31 UTC  

"The domestic courts made a distinction between child marriages and paedophilia. In their opinion, by accusing Muhammad of paedophilia, the applicant had merely sought to defame him, without providing evidence that his primary sexual interest in Aisha had been her not yet having reached puberty or that his other wives or concubines had been similarly young. In particular, the applicant had disregarded the fact that the marriage with Aisha had continued until the Prophet’s death, when she had already turned eighteen and had therefore passed the age of puberty."

2019-09-28 23:54:36 UTC  

https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22002-12171%22]}

2019-09-28 23:55:08 UTC  

Looks like a nice bullshit explaination tbh

2019-09-28 23:55:21 UTC  

I can accept that

2019-09-28 23:55:26 UTC  

so its not pedo to sleep with a 9 year old as long as you stay with them. right.

2019-09-28 23:56:33 UTC  

She would have to prove that he was attracted to pre-pubescent children, she failed to do that

2019-09-28 23:56:48 UTC  

but the core problem is that the court is saying that it's not ok to defame historical religious figures, which means it is siding with a blasphemy ruling

2019-09-28 23:56:49 UTC  

If she was going label him as she did.

2019-09-28 23:57:05 UTC  

All the information we have about this dead cunt say he is

2019-09-28 23:57:22 UTC  

It is essentially a blasphemy law

2019-09-28 23:57:22 UTC  

The hadiths? <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-09-28 23:57:32 UTC  

Written 50+ years after his death?

2019-09-28 23:57:35 UTC  

That evidence?

2019-09-28 23:57:53 UTC  

"As for the context of the impugned statements, the seminars had been widely advertised to the public on the Internet and via leaflets, sent out by the head of the right-wing Freedom Party, addressing them especially to young voters and praising them as “top seminars” in the framework of a “free education package”. The title of the seminar had given the – in hindsight misleading – impression that it would include objective information on Islam. Anyone interested in participating had been able to enrol and as such the applicant could therefore not have assumed that there would only be like-minded people in the room but also people who might be offended by her statements."

2019-09-28 23:57:55 UTC  

More context.

2019-09-28 23:58:12 UTC  

it doesnt matter if its true or not, its a blasphemy ruling. is it illegal to say that jesus was a known child murdered?

2019-09-28 23:58:20 UTC  

No

2019-09-28 23:58:24 UTC  

Click on the link I sent you

2019-09-28 23:58:24 UTC  

Not islam enough

2019-09-28 23:58:26 UTC  

And actually read it.

2019-09-28 23:59:00 UTC  

From that quote you postes

2019-09-28 23:59:02 UTC  

"The applicant had subjectively labelled Muhammad with paedophilia as his general sexual preference, while failing to neutrally inform her audience of the historical background, which consequently did not allow for a serious debate on that issue, and had thus made a value judgement without sufficient factual basis."

2019-09-28 23:59:06 UTC  

>Defamation