Message from @Snake

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2019-09-28 19:06:01 UTC  

Well that’s what happens when you try marketing marriage into being super expensive and the government doesn’t help people out

2019-09-28 19:06:04 UTC  

Oh ok

2019-09-28 19:22:24 UTC  

Well its glorified isn't it

2019-09-28 19:23:01 UTC  

supposed to be some final goal, happiest day in existence, some unending bond

2019-09-28 19:36:25 UTC  

I suppose part of that might be the problem, expecting that new love to last forever.

2019-09-28 20:11:37 UTC  

Actually

2019-09-28 20:11:55 UTC  

The way forward is to end divorce courts aka "family courts"

2019-09-28 20:13:11 UTC  

Men won't take suffrage back from women, won't happen. However, if we can dismantle divorce courts then there'll be an economic revolution that would have a similar effect as installing parts of the patriarchy again would (only liberal this time).

2019-09-28 20:14:00 UTC  

Divorce courts are illegitimate and the statistics are sufficient proof for that.

2019-09-28 20:52:46 UTC  

You could go a long way towards disincentivizing divorce by abolishing welfare
Just saying

2019-09-28 21:19:53 UTC  

point

2019-09-28 21:20:20 UTC  

or at least cut welfare to people who can demonstrate need and who enter a work rehabilitation program

2019-09-28 21:45:28 UTC  

I would like welfare but instead for single moms it would be for families

2019-09-28 21:45:49 UTC  

You see, I think in America we have it ass backwards, it’s like socialism for the rich

2019-09-28 21:46:09 UTC  

Welfare isn’t bad, but should be used to incentivize hard working people

2019-09-28 21:46:11 UTC  

Not leeches

2019-09-28 22:12:16 UTC  

Maybe some sort of study can be done to see how long it takes people on welfare who are looking for work to get off of welfare. And then set a date to when someone's welfare ends. If someone needs more time make a system in place where they can apply.

2019-09-29 01:12:02 UTC  

I recommended reading up on the new Austrian welfare system
I hope auto translating it suffices for proper understanding
https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000102026341/mindestsicherung-die-neue-sozialhilfe-im-detail

2019-09-29 02:12:01 UTC  

@Snake it's a contradictory move, to try to subsidize people in a capitalist system by removing their impetus to compete

2019-09-29 02:12:35 UTC  

I’m talking about people who have families

2019-09-29 02:12:44 UTC  

Not business owners

2019-09-29 02:13:13 UTC  

Or a college student trying to buy a house

2019-09-29 02:13:31 UTC  

A old person who has no family to look after them

2019-09-29 02:13:55 UTC  

Working class Americans

2019-09-29 02:14:35 UTC  

@ETBrooD i like the graduated per-child benefits, since welfare children are a big problem in the US

2019-09-29 02:15:03 UTC  

Also there should be a condition that the mother and father are together

2019-09-29 02:15:09 UTC  

There should never be a "too big to fail" concept in a capitalist society

2019-09-29 02:15:46 UTC  

@Snake working class Americans would be better served in their old age by a robust economy providing jobs that build their retirement benefits, over welfare

2019-09-29 02:16:04 UTC  

Yeah that doesn’t happen though

2019-09-29 02:16:17 UTC  

Because cheap labor flowing from the border

2019-09-29 02:16:29 UTC  

You just replace a broken cog

2019-09-29 02:16:57 UTC  

The cheap labor problem is a part of the overall economic issue. It's not unsolvable

2019-09-29 02:17:11 UTC  

Cheap labor floods in due to the promise of welfare

2019-09-29 02:17:26 UTC  

Yeah but that’s because we hand out welfare to illegals

2019-09-29 02:17:38 UTC  

We should militarize our borders if need be

2019-09-29 02:17:53 UTC  

And welfare should be payed in before hand or back after hand

2019-09-29 02:17:56 UTC  

We can save the need for militarizing the border if we just abolish welfare

2019-09-29 02:18:13 UTC  

I would militarize the border anyway

2019-09-29 02:18:22 UTC  

Since they’ll come for welfare or jobs

2019-09-29 02:18:23 UTC  

There'd be little point to it

2019-09-29 02:18:32 UTC  

They’ll still come for jobs