Message from @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU
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It's the same shit as Roman generals did.
anyone that wants to buy their way into power is someone i dont want in power
*UBI isn't necessarily a good idea, but I think its better than free healthcare, welfare, and free college*
there, better?
What part of it, Jack?
That's why Rome collapsed
oof
disagree
how about just no bad ideas
UBI makes it so people dont have to work
like
everyone
so does welfare.
agreed
I get you, Timothas. That whole thing put a bad taste in my mouth that it seems more like economic populism for the sake of buying a voting block.
UBI is fairly indistinguishable from wellfare
It's treasure for the masses.
atleast in terms of effect
I dont like welfare, but UBI is the best welfare
it exactly is welfare
except it is universal
free college and healthcare should be one thing, getting free money (welfare/UBI) are the same thing
UBI is the most logical from of wellfare
but all of wellfare is retarded
It isn't as if health care and public universities / public written debt is going away if we get UBI by the way.
with college and healthcare people still need to do things
well im exaggerating i shouldnt say all, but as a pathology its retarded
with free money you dont need to do anything
no
@Kealor I'm not entirely against this idea, but I think there is potential for good, but we've got to be more discriminatory with it.
with UBI
Welfare should only be a Safety Net, not a lifestyle
UBI, I think, would be better than those **if it replaced them**, so that it still benefits those who do work (unlike welfare), benefits those who dont get crippling sick (unlike free healthcare) and benefits those who dont go to college and get a job otherwise (unlike free college) @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU
you dont have central planning
if anything
Money for granny's heating bill? A little extra food money for a few months for a family not doing so well?
UBI is the least close to socialism
cuz there is no central planning
@Jack of Trades yeah same, but people pursue it as an end goal rather than a last resort
and thus individuals can use it in the most efficient of ways
These are okay, but there's SO MUCH wealth to go around I don't think nearly as many people that have it, need it.