Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-09-15 23:34:46 UTC  

states should have the right to secede without necessarily having military conflict imo

2019-09-15 23:34:55 UTC  

(well i wouldnt say lawless)

2019-09-15 23:35:05 UTC  

They tried to go from STATE to 'member of another country' all in one step

2019-09-15 23:35:11 UTC  

@ManAnimal "Some people would have us spend our treasures and the blood of our youth in foreign wars. We must not be swayed by these warmongerers, and will instead live by a simple maxim: America First - Everyone Else Second."

2019-09-15 23:35:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/622938501440339988/unknown.png

2019-09-15 23:35:15 UTC  

yeah

2019-09-15 23:35:15 UTC  

and THAT is forbidden by the constitution

2019-09-15 23:35:24 UTC  

not sure about that

2019-09-15 23:35:39 UTC  

no state can sign a treaty with another country

2019-09-15 23:35:45 UTC  

🤔

2019-09-15 23:35:57 UTC  

and that was in essence what they did

2019-09-15 23:36:07 UTC  

but it was a technicallity at best

2019-09-15 23:36:08 UTC  

decent point?

2019-09-15 23:36:16 UTC  

the states should have a legal way to leave if they so choose TBH

2019-09-15 23:36:43 UTC  

im not sure how you'd do it

2019-09-15 23:36:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/622938884841406509/0b460d69-ce11-4924-b923-c5f7ee78bf81.png

2019-09-15 23:36:44 UTC  

I don't see any States first stuff

2019-09-15 23:36:48 UTC  

maybe by referenda?

2019-09-15 23:36:49 UTC  

they do but you know lawyers; they will ALWAYS try to take it out of context and come up with a reason

2019-09-15 23:37:18 UTC  

actually considering how well brexit has gone

2019-09-15 23:37:30 UTC  

maybe a referendum is a bad idea

2019-09-15 23:37:45 UTC  

The 10th Ammendment clearly declares that every State has the CHOICE of what powers to hand over to the Federal goverment

2019-09-15 23:37:45 UTC  

(or should i say is going)

2019-09-15 23:38:22 UTC  

and they can revoke any authority that has been given to the Federal Gov at any time

2019-09-15 23:38:57 UTC  

currently, State govs are powerless because the Federal gov uses a form of blackmail in regards to taxes

2019-09-15 23:39:51 UTC  

if a State doesn't say follow the Federal Education mandates, the Federal gov witholds money for Roads or something else

2019-09-15 23:40:33 UTC  

pretty good voice

2019-09-15 23:40:55 UTC  

it's a trade-off between one centralized agency handling buisness for all the states or a seperate department each doing the same thing in all 50 states

2019-09-15 23:41:15 UTC  

the latter would be burrearcy hell

2019-09-15 23:41:36 UTC  

If a state doesn’t X the federal government withholds Y.

Cough.

*1776!*

2019-09-15 23:41:47 UTC  

yup

2019-09-15 23:42:11 UTC  

Yeah that's why the age for alcohol consumption is 21

2019-09-15 23:42:17 UTC  

there's no national age set

2019-09-15 23:42:31 UTC  

but the federal government threatened to withhold funding from any state that didn't raise it from 18 to 21

2019-09-15 23:42:33 UTC  

so they all did

2019-09-15 23:43:15 UTC  

yeah, they have in essence rewritten the rules using economies of scale as justification

2019-09-15 23:43:32 UTC  

Rule 1: Save money