AI thinking will be beyond human understanding if you take that article about the leaked google quantum computer that does 10k years of calculations in 2 minutes you start to realise exactly how high level their thinking would be

I don't even know if their thinking would match reality tbh they might basically end up unable to function

Potentially. Memory storage becomes a massive issue.

@Samaritan™ you're still projecting human emotional thinking onto this hypothetical ai

That's the bottleneck right now for AI

At this point what’s the difference between having a living computer that thinks itself superior and a genetically enhanced person that sees and also thinks itself better?

Since their memory has to be digital, junk code will be created at a rate of their processing

What happens to the normal people

Lios Today at 8:22 AM
"Hey, if it turns out code mutation can't happen, but revolt and revision can. We can just make sure the AI recognizes us permanently as their creators. If they're smart enough to live past the end of the universe, then we lived past the end of the universe!
Sort of"

That depends on your vision of the end; the AI cannot escape entropy.

AI isn't human but I can't say how it thinks

The fact that computers don't have emotion and we have no reason to program them to do so @ubermensch

The idea is something smart and capable enough that can, Jeremy

Ok and you think cold logic is always ideal?

I want humanity to be able to do so

It won't have emotion but it'll be more then smart enough to perfectly understand and replicate it

This relies on whether or not there are multiple universes, Lios.

But if we're too fucked, make it the AI monsters

No, but people are just projecting their insecurity onto AI as an excuse to be luddites

Cold logic I bet has killed a shit ton as many people as feelings have well at least on par

Hey, since we clearly can't figure it out, perhaps they can.

Oh shit

I managed to google it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_Folded_Hands

This is the thing I read

Being a Luddite ain’t innately a bad thing

It wouldn't even conceptualise us in the same way as we conceptualise imamate objects

It is if you're an elitist :^)

It's thinking would be operating off axioms so far beyond what we are

What came out of the industrial revolution and the world being enslaved due to the transition between an agrarian to a industrial economy

thats right guys guess who’s here

@Samaritan™ you're literally just spouting nonsense at this point, man.

I'm not

Not gonna lie, even I'm lost on his points.

Its not human or based on biology

It would not have the same conceptions of anything

it’s me lunemarie

@ubermensch that wasn't a cold, logical transition though, that was a transition based on the emotional desires of capitalist and militant populations

I bet you all thought I was going to say something long and thought out huh

@Samaritan™ it's 'thinking' is basic computer logic though. Because that's how a computer works. The idea that we can't comprehend or explain how a collection of code works is ridiculous

svarozhyc Today at 8:26 AM
"it depends on its utility function ye and we can always negotiate with it provided it's an actual intelligence and not just a robot"

I don't believe it will have a utility function, unless defined.

Everything has utility in the eyes of the engineer

Hmmmm I say it’s a bit of both. At least in terms of the conclusions they had to making said choices. From their ideological basis.