So we can use it to live comfortably

Once the AI has that level of power and control, the AI will be what progresses. We’ll just (hopefully) be along for the ride.

People have a very fictionalized concept of AI

Normally you can't micro humans are an AI can 1 on 1 manage you and everyone else at once

It'd have a perfect understanding of human psychology and would find a way to convince you

Yeah it's all personal issues whilst talking about hypothetical impersonal thing as per usual

Teleology and shit

Well, Garbo, since we have no real-world experience on the subject, we have to supplement our own human logic and experience.

I read a short story once about an AI that creates living hell for humans - by taking care of their every need and preventing any danger or hurt. This of course means you can't do anything that's fun and even sex is regulated so your blood pressure doesn't go up too much.

I'm thinking purely in terms of what it would be capable of

We'll know for sure when the first fully independent AI is created

Of course, they welcome it with open arms because at first it seems great

Hopefully we'll nuke it before it takes over too much if that is even possible

When it comes to who _makes_ the first fully independent AI.
HAH! I don't trust 'em.

Uh oh

AI thinking will be beyond human understanding if you take that article about the leaked google quantum computer that does 10k years of calculations in 2 minutes you start to realise exactly how high level their thinking would be

I don't even know if their thinking would match reality tbh they might basically end up unable to function

Potentially. Memory storage becomes a massive issue.

@Samaritan™ you're still projecting human emotional thinking onto this hypothetical ai

That's the bottleneck right now for AI

At this point what’s the difference between having a living computer that thinks itself superior and a genetically enhanced person that sees and also thinks itself better?

Since their memory has to be digital, junk code will be created at a rate of their processing

What happens to the normal people

Lios Today at 8:22 AM
"Hey, if it turns out code mutation can't happen, but revolt and revision can. We can just make sure the AI recognizes us permanently as their creators. If they're smart enough to live past the end of the universe, then we lived past the end of the universe!
Sort of"

That depends on your vision of the end; the AI cannot escape entropy.

AI isn't human but I can't say how it thinks

The fact that computers don't have emotion and we have no reason to program them to do so @ubermensch

The idea is something smart and capable enough that can, Jeremy

Ok and you think cold logic is always ideal?

I want humanity to be able to do so

It won't have emotion but it'll be more then smart enough to perfectly understand and replicate it

This relies on whether or not there are multiple universes, Lios.

But if we're too fucked, make it the AI monsters

No, but people are just projecting their insecurity onto AI as an excuse to be luddites

Cold logic I bet has killed a shit ton as many people as feelings have well at least on par

Hey, since we clearly can't figure it out, perhaps they can.

Oh shit

I managed to google it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_Folded_Hands

This is the thing I read

Being a Luddite ain’t innately a bad thing

It wouldn't even conceptualise us in the same way as we conceptualise imamate objects