Message from @ubermensch
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Normally you can't micro humans are an AI can 1 on 1 manage you and everyone else at once
It'd have a perfect understanding of human psychology and would find a way to convince you
Yeah it's all personal issues whilst talking about hypothetical impersonal thing as per usual
Teleology and shit
Well, Garbo, since we have no real-world experience on the subject, we have to supplement our own human logic and experience.
I read a short story once about an AI that creates living hell for humans - by taking care of their every need and preventing any danger or hurt. This of course means you can't do anything that's fun and even sex is regulated so your blood pressure doesn't go up too much.
I'm thinking purely in terms of what it would be capable of
We'll know for sure when the first fully independent AI is created
Of course, they welcome it with open arms because at first it seems great
Hopefully we'll nuke it before it takes over too much if that is even possible
When it comes to who _makes_ the first fully independent AI.
HAH! I don't trust 'em.
Uh oh
AI thinking will be beyond human understanding if you take that article about the leaked google quantum computer that does 10k years of calculations in 2 minutes you start to realise exactly how high level their thinking would be
I don't even know if their thinking would match reality tbh they might basically end up unable to function
Potentially. Memory storage becomes a massive issue.
@Samaritan™ you're still projecting human emotional thinking onto this hypothetical ai
That's the bottleneck right now for AI
At this point what’s the difference between having a living computer that thinks itself superior and a genetically enhanced person that sees and also thinks itself better?
Since their memory has to be digital, junk code will be created at a rate of their processing
Lios Today at 8:22 AM
"Hey, if it turns out code mutation can't happen, but revolt and revision can. We can just make sure the AI recognizes us permanently as their creators. If they're smart enough to live past the end of the universe, then we lived past the end of the universe!
Sort of"
That depends on your vision of the end; the AI cannot escape entropy.
AI isn't human but I can't say how it thinks
The fact that computers don't have emotion and we have no reason to program them to do so @ubermensch
The idea is something smart and capable enough that can, Jeremy
Ok and you think cold logic is always ideal?
I want humanity to be able to do so
It won't have emotion but it'll be more then smart enough to perfectly understand and replicate it
This relies on whether or not there are multiple universes, Lios.
But if we're too fucked, make it the AI monsters
No, but people are just projecting their insecurity onto AI as an excuse to be luddites
Cold logic I bet has killed a shit ton as many people as feelings have well at least on par
Hey, since we clearly can't figure it out, perhaps they can.
Oh shit
I managed to google it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_Folded_Hands
This is the thing I read
Being a Luddite ain’t innately a bad thing
It wouldn't even conceptualise us in the same way as we conceptualise imamate objects
It is if you're an elitist :^)
It's thinking would be operating off axioms so far beyond what we are
What came out of the industrial revolution and the world being enslaved due to the transition between an agrarian to a industrial economy
