Message from @ManAnimal
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well, anyone who is trying to be a contrarian has an easy time of it
I'm understanding, even if I don't want to.
You could translate it as an english "although"
That is the closest one
meh, maybe
if used with something else
Das is doch smutlisch
Sounds like it's a bit more emphatic than although.
It is an expression of a contrarian point or a correction of some kind
That's the spirit of it
No precise meaning
what German lacks in intonation change it makes up for with emphasis words called 'particles'
Aye.
Ooh, never thought about it in that light
It's true though
So leaving out a word lieke 'mal' is a stronger assertion of commad of the more polite, "Hor mal zu"
as opposed to 'Hor zu!'
Mal does not have a direct tanslation either, but it has fewer options, so it is easier to explain
yup; you'd translate it using an idiom or intonation change
"one time" if translated literally or "one" (as in an unquantified amount of persons)
Ah that too
Wait, also as "let's"
but otherwise it just 'softens' the verb
"Mal schauen"
Schau mal
Dang, I never thought about these particles as having no fixed meaning
yeah, same thing; "let's go to the zoo" vs "we're going to the zoo"
And i speak german since I am 5
Hrm, so German is more literal than English (as the latter heavily relies intonation)?
wow, impressive
Although, I'm looking for confirmation bias at the moment, to be honest.
I guess being fluent in a language robs you of the perspective, because you start taken things as a given and never examine/question them
i learned as an adult in conversation more than text
diffrent experience
(Back to structure & order as we were discussing earlier.)
my spoken is about 10x better than written; most words i haven't seen before lol
yup, well structure and order are the cornerstones of german
so it the idea of 'definition' as most noun forms don't require adjectives and can stand alone
it also encourages 'discrete thinking'
Right, and the bias which I'm trying to back up is language informs thought processing.