How much does it cost to produce?

Nope

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Some good shit

who dictates 'should'?

The answer is “As much as the customer is willing to pay.”

what dictates 'should'

which means if i manipulate the customer, i manipulate the cost

seems there is a massive hole in your argument

There is no AI. No system, nothing, that can calculate that.
It happens organically. Via market forces.

This is why socialism always fails.

in theory, yes. but modern trading bots can ALREADY create market changes that look like authentic trends

supply and demand haven't been the primary input variables for quite some time

Socialism is just laziness

a market manipulated by an elite few for their benefit shows little difference to a top-down economy

The question was the practical one. And the cost of production *should* play into the hamfisted answer provided.

what about services?

So, no, not outright negation if you'd rather discuss it.

or IP?

As said, cost of production is the first question for valuation.

but a service doesn't nessecary have any cost of production

Eh, secondary costs of manpower maintenance and so on play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd1Fd-WzF7k

i am of the traditional school of thought that only PRODUCTION represents true economic value

Eh, service is valuable as well.

services simply enable producers to spend more time producing

but they provide no lasting value

And manpower costs count as material in context.

Eh, providing that time is of lasting value.

if i create a knife, that knife is useful even if it is stored in an attic yrs later and then bought at a yard sale

but a service is an expendable

if money gets tight, everyone starts doing their own services

but production always retains value

Eh, what of training, then?

training is overhead

There is that adage about teaching a man to fish versus providing a fish.

a simple cost of doing business

yup

the key to note is what the source of 'value'' is

It is a cost of it, but undermining the instructors' service is part of what got us into this predicament.

market value isn't intrinsic value nor cost