Message from @Cryosite

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2019-09-30 04:42:04 UTC  

murder is wrong

2019-09-30 04:42:08 UTC  

people need to make sacrifices

2019-09-30 04:42:16 UTC  

capitalism is the best way to operate in the world as we know

2019-09-30 04:42:26 UTC  

and capitalism is something of a christian concept

2019-09-30 04:42:43 UTC  

whereas, if you act as if murder and stealing is good, show me that culture now

2019-09-30 04:43:09 UTC  

clearly, behaving in some ways, and believing one idea is better than another, yields different results

2019-09-30 04:43:28 UTC  

so is capitalism more real than communism?

2019-09-30 04:44:07 UTC  

capitalism is more aligned with human reality as far as we're concerned

2019-09-30 04:44:47 UTC  

Capitalism operates in the absence of gods. It certainly isn't evidence for gods.

2019-09-30 04:44:51 UTC  

i can point to an object, i cant point to a thought, why is the thought not real, even though it can 'exist' in every living thing's head

2019-09-30 04:45:14 UTC  

define 'gods'

2019-09-30 04:45:27 UTC  

because it seems to me that 'god' means the reality of the universe

2019-09-30 04:45:38 UTC  

and when people align with that as much as possible, things go much better for them

2019-09-30 04:46:07 UTC  

I'm on a phone. If you're going to ask me to define God's, give me time to respond and don't insert your own.

2019-09-30 04:49:35 UTC  

As noted previously with the fae:
Entity or entities possessing sapience, "magic powers" able to affect the real world, and an interest in the goings on of the world and it's inhabitants.

Something roughly close to this, as I recall, was Hitchens' definition.

Loose "deist" or Einstein's pantheist "universe is God" ideas don't have interest in humans the way Yahweh and the deities of most religions have. They're also lacking a sapient mind or agenda.

2019-09-30 04:49:55 UTC  

These niggas typing some crazy ass fanfiction up in here.

2019-09-30 04:50:30 UTC  

I'm not interested in unprovable, vague deist-gods.

2019-09-30 04:50:32 UTC  

As Sam Harris once said, "If God exists, he is either evil or incompetent."

2019-09-30 04:50:40 UTC  

in his definition

2019-09-30 04:51:08 UTC  

thought in my framework, you could think god is evil because Entropy is natural

2019-09-30 04:51:20 UTC  

Christians, by definition, believe in a specific character described in a particular book.

2019-09-30 04:51:22 UTC  

but the fact people can do things that push entropy away, idk

2019-09-30 04:51:49 UTC  

that might be true if we mean the hardcore christians, cryo

2019-09-30 04:51:59 UTC  

there are some that dont think of it that way

2019-09-30 04:52:06 UTC  

and also, it doesnt necessarily matter

2019-09-30 04:52:07 UTC  

Deism was a cheap means for Enlightenment-era religious skeptics to softball their mounting atheism to a public still heavily divided along secular, institutional religious lines

2019-09-30 04:52:21 UTC  

That being, Yahweh, does not exist. Gods like him don't exist.

2019-09-30 04:52:21 UTC  

whether its something they literally believe or not, people act in the same way

2019-09-30 04:52:34 UTC  

I believe that people are animals, and shouldn't worry so much about animalistic tendencies. ||Except for the niggers, as they have proven to me time, and time again that they are more animal than man.||

2019-09-30 04:52:37 UTC  

thats the great thing about stories

2019-09-30 04:52:50 UTC  

if you think its literal or metaphorical, youll behave the same way

2019-09-30 04:53:00 UTC  

I disagree

2019-09-30 04:53:13 UTC  

so if you have some literal minded people that will believe anything theyre told, if its Christianity, chances are they wont be problematic people

2019-09-30 04:53:25 UTC  

evidently, thats been the historical case

2019-09-30 04:53:32 UTC  

Until they stone witches.

2019-09-30 04:53:46 UTC  

That may have been the case before the advent of modern methods of discerning scientific or historical fact, but as it stands today, believing in the unfalsifiable is dangerous because of the opportunity cost

2019-09-30 04:53:51 UTC  

Or kill each other in Ireland.

2019-09-30 04:54:02 UTC  

@Cryosite or hate on gay people

2019-09-30 04:54:08 UTC  

Look, if they didn't want to be stoned, they shouldn't have turned Billy Bob into a frog.

2019-09-30 04:54:15 UTC  

well i do have one thing to add which is Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and North Korea

2019-09-30 04:54:18 UTC  

*newt