I mean you can do that with almost every religion, it's the dogma and the slave mentality of religion that causes moral regression, the natural conclusion of moral progression would be abandoning religion, which just creates issues

I don't know what I'm saying

fuck you all

also protestent reformation

We do see some of those issues on the left.

programs need updating as the times and people change

They're going batshit with their "morality."

The Reformation did not produce only good, it also produced the KKK and all sorts of rubbish

@Win Roe it is doctrinally infeasible to reform Islam without straight up excising nearly all islamic religious texts and religious history

Dogmatism for contradictory beliefs @Cryosite

It allowed rampant heresy to run free

@UnfilteredGarbage I said almost all religions

Ah, true

@Cryosite That's what the left calls "morality"

I had some Muslims at work attempt to tell me that their religion was superior to Christianity because their holy book hadn't been edited at all since the original writing. Not even a dot or tiddle different.

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Except for Mohammed's child bride's age

Well.... that's not true

It really isn't.

Christianity is the cornerstone of the west.

I'd say it's the best we gonna get

That's not true at all Cryosite, it's something all Muslims believe but it's not factual. Entire books and verses are missing from the Quran, the hadiths prove it. There were multiple variations, and various reciters disagreed on verses

Also isn't a lot of what makes up Islamic practice actually Hadiths, which are applied pretty much at whim

we figured out the fundamental principles of Christianity

But at one point, a major leader of Islam formalized one version and had all the rest burned

i guess when i say Christianity i mean that version

rather than the bible version

@lungfish Then a king collected all korans and burnt the ones he didn't like, leaving one version left

@Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU the moral framework of christian society, is really what is meant

I'm aware of those historical facts. I did not even for a moment agree with them.

i guess yes

The hadiths tell the true story of Islam... fascinating stuff

Also one of Mohammed's wives did some page destroying

Well, all we learned is that your muslim co-worker is a oatmeal-brain illegal.

I'm amazed they never edited out the bit about Mohammed's clothes being covered in cumstains

It's also really weird having a Muslim try to convert me, an atheist, by arguing superiority of Islam over Christianity. It seems like they'd been fed a certain bit of apologetics and couldn't actually think of how to react to someone who agrees with them that Christianity is shit. Just that their book is shit too.

That was his 9 year old bride; she fed a verse to a goat. The verse about breast-feeding. Some ridiculous verse about how women should breastfeed men to ensure they don't sleep with them, or something

@Ethaneth Oatmeal has more wrinkles than the marble that produced that broken idea