if that isn't chattel slavery I don't know what is

the Epistle of Paul to Philemon is about encouraging a master to take back his slave who had run away

because the slave wanted to return

Well yeah, where the fuck else was he going to go, realistically?

Anyway.

There are bits in the Bible that, if you choose to focus on them and ignore the other bits, can lead someone to decide slavery is bad. It takes personal interpretation being given primacy over literal or total interpretation. And when Christians do that, and push good morals above what is found in the pages of the book, we get moral progress.

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Now, if we keep moving past that and into even better grounds, you'll find less and less of the original material making the cut.

gotta trim the weeds that overgrow

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I shan't go so far as to throw out the baby with the bathwater

theres a reason christianity came after judaism, someone else had a different idea, removed the bad jewy bits, etc

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@Cryosite we hit that point back in the 60s when protestant demonations systematically gave up any pretentions of religious elitism and just became a 'nondemoninational' voting bloc

I mean you can do that with almost every religion, it's the dogma and the slave mentality of religion that causes moral regression, the natural conclusion of moral progression would be abandoning religion, which just creates issues

I don't know what I'm saying

fuck you all

also protestent reformation

We do see some of those issues on the left.

programs need updating as the times and people change

They're going batshit with their "morality."

The Reformation did not produce only good, it also produced the KKK and all sorts of rubbish

@Win Roe it is doctrinally infeasible to reform Islam without straight up excising nearly all islamic religious texts and religious history

Dogmatism for contradictory beliefs @Cryosite

It allowed rampant heresy to run free

@UnfilteredGarbage I said almost all religions

Ah, true

@Cryosite That's what the left calls "morality"

I had some Muslims at work attempt to tell me that their religion was superior to Christianity because their holy book hadn't been edited at all since the original writing. Not even a dot or tiddle different.

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Except for Mohammed's child bride's age

Well.... that's not true

It really isn't.

Christianity is the cornerstone of the west.

I'd say it's the best we gonna get

That's not true at all Cryosite, it's something all Muslims believe but it's not factual. Entire books and verses are missing from the Quran, the hadiths prove it. There were multiple variations, and various reciters disagreed on verses

Also isn't a lot of what makes up Islamic practice actually Hadiths, which are applied pretty much at whim

we figured out the fundamental principles of Christianity