Message from @Brokkr

Discord ID: 625112401850794026


2019-09-21 23:26:33 UTC  

Statistically, many of those issues can be solved holistically. That is to say: Better education which focuses on how to think, instead of what. Less welfare while promoting family units. More civic focus.

2019-09-21 23:26:51 UTC  

Indeed.

2019-09-21 23:28:25 UTC  

Instead of discouraging work by way of welfare, why not instead pursue incentivizing work with expanded work/earned income credits, if you believe lowered income brackets need assistance.

2019-09-21 23:28:44 UTC  

That's one solution to the issue you've mentioned.

2019-09-21 23:28:45 UTC  

Right. Reward based on effort.

2019-09-21 23:28:49 UTC  

Exactly.

2019-09-21 23:29:22 UTC  

I do think that the black community does face unique problems.

2019-09-21 23:29:50 UTC  

It's less and less unique to black communities now, however.

2019-09-21 23:30:23 UTC  

I see similar issues unfolding throughout plenty of predominantly white communities, too, including in those multi-racial.

2019-09-21 23:30:24 UTC  

Such as a disproportionate crime rate to their overall population percentage. That, along with more time with police, but getting killed by police less other ethnic groups.

2019-09-21 23:30:41 UTC  

Indeed.

2019-09-21 23:31:21 UTC  

....in other words, statistically a black individual may see the same officer 5 times before getting shot, whereas 1 white person may have one interaction and get shot.

2019-09-21 23:31:23 UTC  

idk man I think every community has "unique" issues.
The Anglo-sphere with their white guilt and desire to destroy themselves is amazing to me
@Jeremy and @Brokkr

2019-09-21 23:31:35 UTC  

I think that's crazy unique. Never seen anything like it

2019-09-21 23:31:52 UTC  

Yeah. I have no shame in my ancestry.

2019-09-21 23:32:02 UTC  

....and any debts I had were paid in blood.

2019-09-21 23:32:22 UTC  

In reference to what is promoted, culturally, there are parallels, especially in urban environments where you see street culture adopted by all racial groups.

2019-09-21 23:32:46 UTC  

It's no longer a matter of "black culture" now.

2019-09-21 23:32:59 UTC  

So, even working under the presumption that anyone in my family tree owned slaves in the US (they didn't), my family fought and died for the Union. Paid in full. I have nothing to answer for.

2019-09-21 23:33:26 UTC  

Right, @nimble_newt, which is quite illogical in my view.

2019-09-21 23:33:30 UTC  

Then again, I'm a firm believer that I'm only responsible for my own actions....not the actions of others.

2019-09-21 23:33:40 UTC  

Ding-ding-ding-ding.

2019-09-21 23:35:04 UTC  

I do not benefit, socially, from the efforts of my parents. Why should I be punished for their alleged sins?

2019-09-21 23:35:50 UTC  

Newt, have you since returned to the UK?

2019-09-21 23:36:00 UTC  

Such is the perceptive split between the collectivist and individualist.

2019-09-21 23:36:55 UTC  

Sure. The difference between a Constitutional Republic and a Representative Democracy is individual accountability vs collective rights.

2019-09-21 23:37:14 UTC  

Correct.

2019-09-21 23:38:25 UTC  

And while you'll see an embrace of one over their other at one point in time, it is just as easily disposed of when motive of self-interest is served.

2019-09-21 23:39:10 UTC  

Don't mistake advocates of collective perspectives as anything but self-interested.

2019-09-21 23:39:21 UTC  

On another Discord server someone asked me if I support gay marriage politically. They did not expect my answer of: "It should not be political. The government needs to step back from marriage and enact a legal terminology which speaks to the contract of two or more individuals and custody."

2019-09-21 23:39:49 UTC  

IE, I neither support nor am against gays getting married. It is not my concern. The government not having a say in the matter is.

2019-09-21 23:40:04 UTC  

They'd strip away your property, then seek the State's protection once they have it.

2019-09-21 23:40:19 UTC  

I bring this up because....at one point, blacks could not marry whites.

2019-09-21 23:40:35 UTC  

....now it's same-sex and poly couples.

2019-09-21 23:40:51 UTC  

Correct.

2019-09-21 23:41:14 UTC  

That's a rather classically liberal perspective, one we share.

2019-09-21 23:41:52 UTC  

Yeah. Weird how I don't fit into a box, huh?

2019-09-21 23:42:22 UTC  

Not at all; you're not an ideologue.

2019-09-21 23:43:15 UTC  

So, I went looking for Sargon's patreon. It's gone.

2019-09-21 23:43:49 UTC  

Then I learned he was banned.

2019-09-21 23:43:55 UTC  

....and I was not surprised.