Message from @Ironclad

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2019-09-26 04:07:43 UTC  

I can, actually.

2019-09-26 04:07:45 UTC  

It's a big issue

2019-09-26 04:07:49 UTC  

Actually yes we can say that, because we're not the ones causing the damage

2019-09-26 04:07:55 UTC  

I can totally do that. Especially because people won't fucking switch to nuclear.

2019-09-26 04:08:01 UTC  

^

2019-09-26 04:08:09 UTC  

I agree with nuclear, it's dumb we don't want it at all

2019-09-26 04:08:20 UTC  

Nuclear generators are not nuclear warheads

2019-09-26 04:08:26 UTC  

Right, so

2019-09-26 04:08:34 UTC  

Why do climatologists not propose more nuclear then?

2019-09-26 04:08:46 UTC  

Why do they not tell Germany to stop dismantling them?

2019-09-26 04:09:12 UTC  

Probably because they're in somebody's pocket or ideologically predisposed to dislike nuclear energy.

2019-09-26 04:09:12 UTC  

I can tell you why, it's because it's dogmatic

2019-09-26 04:09:27 UTC  

Probably coal energy

2019-09-26 04:09:32 UTC  

They know it's better and safer after looking at the numbers, they have an incentive not to speak up about it

2019-09-26 04:09:40 UTC  

That incentive is financial and political

2019-09-26 04:10:17 UTC  

My uncle works in the environmental sector, he has studied these things

2019-09-26 04:10:26 UTC  

He has worked on a windmill concept that was rejected

2019-09-26 04:10:52 UTC  

When I addressed the issue of nuclear and I said that I think it might be a solution

2019-09-26 04:11:04 UTC  

He didn't say a word, and I was surprised, because I thought he would argue against it

2019-09-26 04:11:14 UTC  

1-2 years later I know why he didn't

2019-09-26 04:13:09 UTC  

That said, I don't see the issue with continuing to use carbon production if it means we can convert it using capture systems, but we'd have to get California to stop shitting in the streets, and that's asking too much.

2019-09-26 04:13:31 UTC  

Plastic straw bans are the solution now for real

2019-09-26 04:13:42 UTC  

How can anyone even come up with this

2019-09-26 04:13:55 UTC  

You know that plastic isn't biodegradable right?

2019-09-26 04:14:13 UTC  

I do know that, and I'm doing what I can to reduce plastic in my daily use

2019-09-26 04:14:13 UTC  

It kind of just accumulates

2019-09-26 04:14:19 UTC  

Cool

2019-09-26 04:14:26 UTC  

The issue is

2019-09-26 04:14:38 UTC  

I've looked at the numbers after some people in the other channels told me about the reality of the situation

2019-09-26 04:15:00 UTC  

Once again, Europe leads in being the cleanest westernized continent in regards to plastic

2019-09-26 04:15:08 UTC  

It's many times cleaner than Asia

2019-09-26 04:16:06 UTC  

Plastic straws cause less overall pollution, due to the manufacturing processes being cleaner. Being cleaner than Asia is like saying your room is cleaner because it doesn't look like a junk yard.

2019-09-26 04:16:14 UTC  

Even if we did everything we could, we would not stop this level of pollution

2019-09-26 04:16:29 UTC  

That said, recycling is the answer to the straws problem.

2019-09-26 04:16:55 UTC  

The west has a "it's my fault" problem right now

2019-09-26 04:16:59 UTC  

And this seriously needs to stop

2019-09-26 04:17:01 UTC  

If I ever go to ~~Commifornia~~ California, I'm gonna bring my own goddamn straw.

2019-09-26 04:17:16 UTC  

We're going for less than ideal solutions that cause new problems

2019-09-26 04:17:28 UTC  

And ultimately we're not addressing the elephant in the room

2019-09-26 04:18:12 UTC  

Our politics are being derailed with the green debate

2019-09-26 04:18:18 UTC  

How so?