Message from @Ironclad
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I can tell you why, it's because it's dogmatic
Probably coal energy
They know it's better and safer after looking at the numbers, they have an incentive not to speak up about it
That incentive is financial and political
My uncle works in the environmental sector, he has studied these things
He has worked on a windmill concept that was rejected
When I addressed the issue of nuclear and I said that I think it might be a solution
He didn't say a word, and I was surprised, because I thought he would argue against it
1-2 years later I know why he didn't
That said, I don't see the issue with continuing to use carbon production if it means we can convert it using capture systems, but we'd have to get California to stop shitting in the streets, and that's asking too much.
Plastic straw bans are the solution now for real
How can anyone even come up with this
You know that plastic isn't biodegradable right?
I do know that, and I'm doing what I can to reduce plastic in my daily use
It kind of just accumulates
Cool
The issue is
I've looked at the numbers after some people in the other channels told me about the reality of the situation
Once again, Europe leads in being the cleanest westernized continent in regards to plastic
It's many times cleaner than Asia
Plastic straws cause less overall pollution, due to the manufacturing processes being cleaner. Being cleaner than Asia is like saying your room is cleaner because it doesn't look like a junk yard.
Even if we did everything we could, we would not stop this level of pollution
That said, recycling is the answer to the straws problem.
The west has a "it's my fault" problem right now
And this seriously needs to stop
If I ever go to ~~Commifornia~~ California, I'm gonna bring my own goddamn straw.
We're going for less than ideal solutions that cause new problems
And ultimately we're not addressing the elephant in the room
Our politics are being derailed with the green debate
How so?
If you're not a dogmatic believer you might not get elected
dogmatic believer of what?
Well, right now I'd say it's being derailed by impeaching Trump, but that's gonna be an absolute joke.
Climate change?
It's ridiculous, we're not solving our own problems because of something that we're not even causing
The dogmatic belief that we in the west can save the planet
A dogmatic believer that we should destroy our civilization to "protect the world/environment". We can save the planet, sure, but we'll have to do some thing people aren't a big fan of. Namely: kicking China and India in the dick until they stop polluting.
You're right that we're being derailed from what is significant.
We're lied to and manipulated.
No the west cannot save the planet. The issue is getting a world wide consensus on action. Nobody want to be the first and only.
The developing countries will never agree to controls if it damages their economic progress.
And they shouldn't
They need to develop, otherwise how are they going to address anything so meaningful as climate change
Exactly the issue