I mean if the security companies just occupied a local community and ruled over the local populace

who's going to stop em?

and are subject to the laws enforced by the police force of the state?

the state has the authority of for security

Ought is nice, but *is*.. well.. is what we needsmust focus on.

which has conditions outside of money

@Muten lol implying the current state is accountable hahahaha

ie. outside the mechanisms of trade

the only counter I've heard to "rogue armies" and "security company occupation" is just "people wouldn't appreciate it" which means???

don't confuse theory with implementation

Plus whose going to break up the monopolies? In an Ancap society that'd be a larger problem than we have today.

you can't compare a theortical ancap society to the implementation of a rep republic

@Terry Arcona Well they are accountable to more people, less accountable in general but equally accountable to the general public

theoretical representation republic vs theoretical ancap society

so, in theory, a state SHOULD be accountable

applies in both situations

If you want a 100% free market with 0 govt monopolies will ruin the economy more than it has now.

but the mechanisms of accountablity used by a traditional state lay outside the mechanisms of trade

not so in the ancap world

so how do you prevent one from using the other as leverage?

@Muten dude who pays the securty companies? if they become corrupt no one would pay them and they would go out of business

negative

but they have guns

who needs money when you have guns

just exploit the people you occupy

like they did in the olden times

they ONLY go out of business cause the STATE prevents them from just TAKING the money

with no STATE, the security firm just ROBS the client

"I just want to be able to rob people ok"

why pay for what you can TAKE by force without opposition?

@Muten lol no they aren't, you're living in fantasy land, current states are accountable to corporations and big money lenders, they don't give a rats ass about jo smoe the little guy

^^ ah, u are breaking the rule; theory vs theory

at least we HAVE an implementation no matter how flawed

I mean god's right but you missed my point anyway

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@SageTheory government is responsible for most monopolies, hell government it self is a monopoly

well, not really.

a monopoly isn't based on the customer

government should be a monopoly of the population

it's based on the competition

everyone is part of their company