Message from @Terry Arcona

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2019-07-12 05:38:04 UTC  

Plus whose going to break up the monopolies? In an Ancap society that'd be a larger problem than we have today.

2019-07-12 05:38:11 UTC  

you can't compare a theortical ancap society to the implementation of a rep republic

2019-07-12 05:38:17 UTC  

@Terry Arcona Well they are accountable to more people, less accountable in general but equally accountable to the general public

2019-07-12 05:38:40 UTC  

theoretical representation republic vs theoretical ancap society

2019-07-12 05:39:05 UTC  

so, in theory, a state SHOULD be accountable

2019-07-12 05:39:16 UTC  

applies in both situations

2019-07-12 05:39:42 UTC  

If you want a 100% free market with 0 govt monopolies will ruin the economy more than it has now.

2019-07-12 05:40:00 UTC  

but the mechanisms of accountablity used by a traditional state lay outside the mechanisms of trade

2019-07-12 05:40:12 UTC  

not so in the ancap world

2019-07-12 05:40:33 UTC  

so how do you prevent one from using the other as leverage?

2019-07-12 05:40:44 UTC  

@Muten dude who pays the securty companies? if they become corrupt no one would pay them and they would go out of business

2019-07-12 05:40:56 UTC  

negative

2019-07-12 05:40:57 UTC  

but they have guns

2019-07-12 05:41:03 UTC  

who needs money when you have guns

2019-07-12 05:41:13 UTC  

just exploit the people you occupy

2019-07-12 05:41:19 UTC  

like they did in the olden times

2019-07-12 05:41:19 UTC  

they ONLY go out of business cause the STATE prevents them from just TAKING the money

2019-07-12 05:41:38 UTC  

with no STATE, the security firm just ROBS the client

2019-07-12 05:41:47 UTC  

"I just want to be able to rob people ok"

2019-07-12 05:41:50 UTC  

why pay for what you can TAKE by force without opposition?

2019-07-12 05:41:57 UTC  

@Muten lol no they aren't, you're living in fantasy land, current states are accountable to corporations and big money lenders, they don't give a rats ass about jo smoe the little guy

2019-07-12 05:42:18 UTC  

^^ ah, u are breaking the rule; theory vs theory

2019-07-12 05:42:31 UTC  

at least we HAVE an implementation no matter how flawed

2019-07-12 05:42:35 UTC  

I mean god's right but you missed my point anyway

2019-07-12 05:42:51 UTC  

DAMN THAT'S A THICC BOI

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/599113418443587605/243.png

2019-07-12 05:42:52 UTC  

@SageTheory government is responsible for most monopolies, hell government it self is a monopoly

2019-07-12 05:43:04 UTC  

well, not really.

2019-07-12 05:43:15 UTC  

a monopoly isn't based on the customer

2019-07-12 05:43:20 UTC  

government should be a monopoly of the population

2019-07-12 05:43:24 UTC  

it's based on the competition

2019-07-12 05:43:38 UTC  

everyone is part of their company

2019-07-12 05:43:50 UTC  

'part of' means what exactly?

2019-07-12 05:43:53 UTC  

The govt isn't a Monopoly lol and yes it's a problem you'd make worse under ancap

2019-07-12 05:44:05 UTC  

My arm has an elbow, i have an arm

2019-07-12 05:44:06 UTC  

government is the monopoly that EVERYONE is a part of

2019-07-12 05:44:15 UTC  

well

2019-07-12 05:44:19 UTC  

that's actually retared

2019-07-12 05:44:20 UTC  

well, not really

2019-07-12 05:44:23 UTC  

I retract that statment

2019-07-12 05:44:23 UTC  

lol

2019-07-12 05:44:51 UTC  

the gov is GIVEN a monopoly on force in exchange for agreeing to protect your rights