Message from @Terry Arcona

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2019-07-12 05:35:32 UTC  

@Death in June wrong I'm talking about small communty laws enforced by private security

2019-07-12 05:35:36 UTC  

and you have more than one bosss

2019-07-12 05:35:36 UTC  

which means they could just become rogue armies

2019-07-12 05:35:41 UTC  

in AnCap there is no state

2019-07-12 05:35:42 UTC  

no accountability

2019-07-12 05:35:55 UTC  

It's a "one day" maybe sorta of ideal (AnCap).. but as things are?

2019-07-12 05:35:58 UTC  

Mob rule.

2019-07-12 05:36:01 UTC  

Got it

2019-07-12 05:36:08 UTC  

and what does one do on a 48hr op? <:hyperthink:462282519883284480>

2019-07-12 05:36:11 UTC  

with no state, then what stops those hired for security from TAKING rather than TRADING?

2019-07-12 05:36:19 UTC  

A lot of this sorta thing i settle on is/ought.

2019-07-12 05:36:29 UTC  

yeah and these small communities exist within states, yes?

2019-07-12 05:36:31 UTC  

why pay when you have alll the guns and superior skills to fight?

2019-07-12 05:36:38 UTC  

and the security operates within the territory of the state?

2019-07-12 05:36:40 UTC  

I mean if the security companies just occupied a local community and ruled over the local populace

2019-07-12 05:36:45 UTC  

who's going to stop em?

2019-07-12 05:36:47 UTC  

and are subject to the laws enforced by the police force of the state?

2019-07-12 05:36:58 UTC  

the state has the authority of for security

2019-07-12 05:37:00 UTC  

Ought is nice, but *is*.. well.. is what we needsmust focus on.

2019-07-12 05:37:14 UTC  

which has conditions outside of money

2019-07-12 05:37:23 UTC  

@Muten lol implying the current state is accountable hahahaha

2019-07-12 05:37:27 UTC  

ie. outside the mechanisms of trade

2019-07-12 05:37:45 UTC  

the only counter I've heard to "rogue armies" and "security company occupation" is just "people wouldn't appreciate it" which means???

2019-07-12 05:37:48 UTC  

don't confuse theory with implementation

2019-07-12 05:38:04 UTC  

Plus whose going to break up the monopolies? In an Ancap society that'd be a larger problem than we have today.

2019-07-12 05:38:11 UTC  

you can't compare a theortical ancap society to the implementation of a rep republic

2019-07-12 05:38:17 UTC  

@Terry Arcona Well they are accountable to more people, less accountable in general but equally accountable to the general public

2019-07-12 05:38:40 UTC  

theoretical representation republic vs theoretical ancap society

2019-07-12 05:39:05 UTC  

so, in theory, a state SHOULD be accountable

2019-07-12 05:39:16 UTC  

applies in both situations

2019-07-12 05:39:42 UTC  

If you want a 100% free market with 0 govt monopolies will ruin the economy more than it has now.

2019-07-12 05:40:00 UTC  

but the mechanisms of accountablity used by a traditional state lay outside the mechanisms of trade

2019-07-12 05:40:12 UTC  

not so in the ancap world

2019-07-12 05:40:33 UTC  

so how do you prevent one from using the other as leverage?

2019-07-12 05:40:44 UTC  

@Muten dude who pays the securty companies? if they become corrupt no one would pay them and they would go out of business

2019-07-12 05:40:56 UTC  

negative

2019-07-12 05:40:57 UTC  

but they have guns

2019-07-12 05:41:03 UTC  

who needs money when you have guns

2019-07-12 05:41:13 UTC  

just exploit the people you occupy

2019-07-12 05:41:19 UTC  

like they did in the olden times

2019-07-12 05:41:19 UTC  

they ONLY go out of business cause the STATE prevents them from just TAKING the money