@ManAnimal yea myspace came before facebook, facebook grew far larger when it got in bed with the government

techincally you are right

BUT those other platforms had a BB gun

If your talking utilities then yes technically so but those are formed because it's easier to have one water company than multiple water companies. I'm talking anticompetitive monopolies that hurt the economy.

@Terry Arcona that's cuz they're operating on govt software <:hyperthink:462282519883284480>

vs the Cannon FB developed

And if I dig deep, probably find other competition as well.

so we are in agreement, fb isn't a monopoly at least it wasnt..... at FIRST

Nonetheless less the BB Gun v Cannon is a fair analog.

it's only later that they start employing unfair tactics against those trying to enter the market it becomes a monopoly

(Fuck, I shouldn't have taken that drive now that I sat down and the intoxicants are hitting.)

And yes silicon valley is a problem but I don't think ancaps have an answer to it because they have no way in breaking up monopolies.

many forget that a monopoly is defined by how a company treats other competitios NOT customers

@ManAnimal well technicaly even with the government aid it's gotten it's still not quite a monopoly but it's damn close

it's hard to monopolize on the internet

true. but 'gov aid' isnt' always a bad thing. in fact, it is the ONLY way a gov can operate with a free market

It's more of a cornered market.

the 'ideal' gov simply takes money from one interest and pays it towards another interest of competing interest

Technically social media isn't operating as a monopoly.

They are operating in cohoots, though.

@SageTheory government doesn't break up monoplies either, atleast not the ones that are bed with government which is practicaly all of your fortune 500 and up companies today

so if people vote they would like more public transit rather than cars, i charge a premium for driving the cars and every dollar from that goes ONLY to public transit. zero sum

Yes that's a problem

TELL ME HOW ANCAPS WILL HANDLE IT THO.

@ManAnimal if companies are recieing government subsidies it's no longer a free market

so i don't make cars 'illegal' i just compartmentalize and by doing so, i encourage investment in trainsit tech which makes the cost come down

we aren't talking about companies

follow my example

don't make up your own and say it doesnt work; focus on my example and tell me how it doesn't work

i never mention a company receiving a subsidy

The resting argument of AnCap seems to be that the gov't enables bad habits due to favoritism and nepotism.

Because saying no govt = no monopolies is false and also it's not so bad to where it's crippling the economy.

i said the gov pays for trains with dollars raised by taxing car owners

@SageTheory AnCaps handle it by not handling it, monoplies simply form less with out government, AnCaps don't promise there wont be any but there will certainly be far less

the gov pays a compnay for a product (trains) just like any other customer

xD

Okay

exactly Laucvioui

So they don't have an answer

they focus on the shit implementation

We just have to take their word.