Message from @Terry Arcona

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2019-07-12 05:52:58 UTC  

but don't HELP nor create monopolies

2019-07-12 05:53:12 UTC  

there is a difference between the only game in town and say Standard Oil

2019-07-12 05:53:32 UTC  

i mean, facebook was the first, twitter was the first

2019-07-12 05:53:53 UTC  

they didn't have to destroy competition to corner the market

2019-07-12 05:53:59 UTC  

Like I said, I'm game to hear the argument. But I'm also dubious.

2019-07-12 05:53:59 UTC  

they CREATED a new market

2019-07-12 05:54:19 UTC  

so one is a monopoly and the other isn't

2019-07-12 05:54:20 UTC  

Erm.. Myspace. >.<

2019-07-12 05:54:33 UTC  

Oh my god it’s mananimal

2019-07-12 05:54:34 UTC  

but they didn't interfere with myspace

2019-07-12 05:54:39 UTC  

I thought you were gone

2019-07-12 05:54:46 UTC  

myspace just couldn't compete

2019-07-12 05:54:56 UTC  

FB crushed Myspace and Livejournal

2019-07-12 05:55:04 UTC  

again, leave the thinking to others lol

2019-07-12 05:55:11 UTC  

exactly

2019-07-12 05:55:24 UTC  

but because they presented a better product

2019-07-12 05:55:38 UTC  

So to say that FB didn't have competition is dishonest.

2019-07-12 05:55:44 UTC  

so then FB did **not** create a __new__ market, and were not first?
make up your mind, pls

2019-07-12 05:55:48 UTC  

not by employing dirty business practice

2019-07-12 05:55:51 UTC  

They just happened to steamroll them.

2019-07-12 05:55:56 UTC  

@ManAnimal yea myspace came before facebook, facebook grew far larger when it got in bed with the government

2019-07-12 05:55:57 UTC  

techincally you are right

2019-07-12 05:56:20 UTC  

BUT those other platforms had a BB gun

2019-07-12 05:56:27 UTC  

If your talking utilities then yes technically so but those are formed because it's easier to have one water company than multiple water companies. I'm talking anticompetitive monopolies that hurt the economy.

2019-07-12 05:56:29 UTC  

@Terry Arcona that's cuz they're operating on govt software <:hyperthink:462282519883284480>

2019-07-12 05:56:31 UTC  

vs the Cannon FB developed

2019-07-12 05:56:50 UTC  

And if I dig deep, probably find other competition as well.

2019-07-12 05:57:17 UTC  

so we are in agreement, fb isn't a monopoly at least it wasnt..... at FIRST

2019-07-12 05:57:33 UTC  

Nonetheless less the BB Gun v Cannon is a fair analog.

2019-07-12 05:58:07 UTC  

it's only later that they start employing unfair tactics against those trying to enter the market it becomes a monopoly

2019-07-12 05:58:30 UTC  

(Fuck, I shouldn't have taken that drive now that I sat down and the intoxicants are hitting.)

2019-07-12 05:58:39 UTC  

And yes silicon valley is a problem but I don't think ancaps have an answer to it because they have no way in breaking up monopolies.

2019-07-12 05:58:39 UTC  

many forget that a monopoly is defined by how a company treats other competitios NOT customers

2019-07-12 05:59:08 UTC  

@ManAnimal well technicaly even with the government aid it's gotten it's still not quite a monopoly but it's damn close

2019-07-12 05:59:37 UTC  

it's hard to monopolize on the internet

2019-07-12 05:59:52 UTC  

true. but 'gov aid' isnt' always a bad thing. in fact, it is the ONLY way a gov can operate with a free market

2019-07-12 06:00:06 UTC  

It's more of a cornered market.

2019-07-12 06:00:32 UTC  

the 'ideal' gov simply takes money from one interest and pays it towards another interest of competing interest

2019-07-12 06:00:34 UTC  

Technically social media isn't operating as a monopoly.

2019-07-12 06:00:56 UTC  

They are operating in cohoots, though.

2019-07-12 06:00:56 UTC  

@SageTheory government doesn't break up monoplies either, atleast not the ones that are bed with government which is practicaly all of your fortune 500 and up companies today