Message from @ManAnimal
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so we are in agreement, fb isn't a monopoly at least it wasnt..... at FIRST
Nonetheless less the BB Gun v Cannon is a fair analog.
it's only later that they start employing unfair tactics against those trying to enter the market it becomes a monopoly
(Fuck, I shouldn't have taken that drive now that I sat down and the intoxicants are hitting.)
And yes silicon valley is a problem but I don't think ancaps have an answer to it because they have no way in breaking up monopolies.
many forget that a monopoly is defined by how a company treats other competitios NOT customers
@ManAnimal well technicaly even with the government aid it's gotten it's still not quite a monopoly but it's damn close
it's hard to monopolize on the internet
true. but 'gov aid' isnt' always a bad thing. in fact, it is the ONLY way a gov can operate with a free market
It's more of a cornered market.
the 'ideal' gov simply takes money from one interest and pays it towards another interest of competing interest
Technically social media isn't operating as a monopoly.
They are operating in cohoots, though.
@SageTheory government doesn't break up monoplies either, atleast not the ones that are bed with government which is practicaly all of your fortune 500 and up companies today
so if people vote they would like more public transit rather than cars, i charge a premium for driving the cars and every dollar from that goes ONLY to public transit. zero sum
Yes that's a problem
TELL ME HOW ANCAPS WILL HANDLE IT THO.
@ManAnimal if companies are recieing government subsidies it's no longer a free market
so i don't make cars 'illegal' i just compartmentalize and by doing so, i encourage investment in trainsit tech which makes the cost come down
we aren't talking about companies
don't make up your own and say it doesnt work; focus on my example and tell me how it doesn't work
i never mention a company receiving a subsidy
The resting argument of AnCap seems to be that the gov't enables bad habits due to favoritism and nepotism.
Because saying no govt = no monopolies is false and also it's not so bad to where it's crippling the economy.
i said the gov pays for trains with dollars raised by taxing car owners
@SageTheory AnCaps handle it by not handling it, monoplies simply form less with out government, AnCaps don't promise there wont be any but there will certainly be far less
the gov pays a compnay for a product (trains) just like any other customer
xD
Okay
exactly Laucvioui
So they don't have an answer
they focus on the shit implementation
We just have to take their word.
rather than comparing ideal to ideal first
Alright, the thing about as said monopolies still form.. and have even more power than they would under mixed economies.
corruption is everywhere, we know. but ideally, for the sake of comparison, we pretend it doesn't exist so we can assess the merits of ancap vs republic
They would nothing would stop them. Even though we have monopolies only a few really get away with forming them.
(@ManAnimal "Capitalism hasn't been done right, yet." I know what you mean, but it falls into the same problem as the fierce Communists there.)
not sure what you mean exactly but i do agree in general
@ManAnimal the biggest corruption is seen between corporate back room deals with government