The problem with the 2016 election is they started shaming everyone for supporting Trump, so a ton of them either didn't answer the pollsters or they lied and said they were a Hillary voter.

Yep true

the polls leading up to the election had hillary leading the popular vote by about 3%

Same case in Sweden

and she won the popular vote by about 2%

very close

it is just that the results of the polls were interpreted incorrectly

The Swedish Nationalist Party polls lower but gets way more votes than what the polls predict

people didn't take into account the dynamics involved with the electoral college

Its amazingly close considering the population of the cities

Not necessarily. People in the government have explicitly barred any attempts at validating the citizenship of registered voters, and the "voter fraud" research they've done has never involved actually going through the fucking registry and validating the citizenship of people who vote.

Polls are retarded

I read somewhere that almost 40% of people in California voted Trump

Polls showed trump would lose polls showed remain would win polls showed labour would win in australia all wrong polls are a lie

Just because Hillary Clinton "wins" the popular vote, that doesn't mean eligible voters supported her over Trump. Quite frankly, I'm not willing to "believe" any of our elections until we validate the voter registry and purge anyone who can't verify citizenship.

well most people in california probably voted for trump, clinton got votes from hispanics, blacks, and thots, not people

That's because the polls were retardedly conducted, intentionally or not

the popular vote isn't necessarily indicative of popular will since the presence of the electoral college affects how people vote and how politicians campaign

@Death in June except about 1/3 of all Mexican-Americans voted for Trump

I think California and New York had a fuckload of illegals and noncitizens voting when they shouldn't have been, and I'm going to hold that belief until they go through their registry, name by name, and then arrest anyone who shows up that isn't a citizen.

Since the democrats removed voter id from their states on purpose I wouldn't be surprised if they'd lose popular vote without illegals

well and that is also without getting into what constitutes popular will of course

They've never once done a name-by-name check of the voter registry in ANY state, and they really need to.

Does California have voter ID laws?

No, and Cali gave driver IDs to illegals, which they can use to register to vote.

They are a sanctuary city thats probably a big fuck no

So don't believe shit in the election numbers coming out of California.

The election numbers CANNOT be trusted. Not until they validate the registry.

Sanctuary cities are literally criminal

Its the sate gov helping criminals its unfucking acceptable

Until we get a name-by-name validation, where people have to prove their citizenship to remain on the rolls (Hell, the DNC can pony up the cash and volunteer hours to assist people in finding documents), I'm not going to believe the results of any election, especially coming from places like New York and California.

I think it's unfair to blame the Hillary votes on black people and Mexicans, since about 1/3 of Mexican Americans voted Trump and so did a large portion of black people.

The mayors of one of the cities even told all the illegals that ICE was coming in their city

Its downright treasonous stuff

Helping foreign nationals

Obviously the illegals voted Hillary, there's no way they'd ever vote Trump

We don't even know how many illegals there are because they are illegal

It could easily be the 2 mil that Hillary had over trump on the popular vote though

Even though the dems should have won the pop vote by a larger margin considering the population of blue states

Well I'll be honest... we've all heard the stories of Democrats being charged with literally committing election fraud in state and local elections, so why would that not happen in a presidential election?