so just tear apart and reallocate value someone else made

@randomNPCno3 no, you moron. I said you keep saying it works in theory

Which is hilarious

again, not addressing how to CREATE value

@ManAnimal - Socialism doesn't mandate economic equality.

just allocate other's value

@Reprehensibletrash yes, and only in theory

Nothing about socialism says one person can't live in a fucking castle while another person lives in a small one bedroom apartment.

It doesn't just not work in reality, Marx and Engels themselves state it is impossible to get socialism to function. Third fucking page of the communist manifesto

socialsim isn't communism; economy vs governance

The fundamental problem to socialism is government competence.

It's such a glaring problem that anyone who understands a thing about government in practice will laugh their ass off when some NEET suggests that socialism will fix everything.

There's a reason it's viewed as the eternal revolution

@Reprehensibletrash circles can have corners in theory if you never take it off paper

i disagree

because you can't tell me how socialism would work in terms of ITSELF

only can tell me what it is NOT

that isnt' a definition

@Vir Are you referring to Yukio Mishima?

Jesus, you don't get it.

Exactly like capitalism, but the state owns everything.

That's the ONLY fucking difference.

@randomNPCno3 boundaries and corners aren't the same thing

@ManAnimal socialism is one party control of all revenue streams

not exactly like capitalism

That way the state can readily reallocate resources and account for externalities in business decisions, because in every decision the state eats all the externalities whether positive or negative.

cause it wouldn't be driven by capital interests but by social interests

it would be fundamentally different

people wouldn't have the same motivation to work for a livng

Not currently but I have somewhat read up on that, right now its Carlo Michelstaedter, he partially inspired Evola @Ϻ14ᛟ

@Reprehensibletrash I said corners for a reason. Paper math works on paper but not always in the real world , same for socialism. Works only paper ONLY

or take on more risk

@Arthur Grayborn interesting that you don't have a single example of such a system, yet claim to know the inner workings

@ManAnimal - Why do people work for a living now?

Why should anyone at Walmart give a damn if they don't own the corporation?

Simple: They get fucking paid.

so they can earn capital and use that capital to p urchase what the want and need

they work and get what they want

no work? no house no food

Implying that the same would not be true under socialism.

@randomNPCno3 imagine if AOC wrote in the first three pages of the green new deal, that her ideas are completely asinine and non-functional. Would you still consider it to work in theory...?

No work, no house or food.

Work harder, get nicer house and better food.

but it isn't a discrete

Because that's literally how Engels and Marx wrote it

They admit the complete lack of even theoretical function

8 hrs as a doctor isn't 8 hrs as a mcdonalds employee