Message from @randomNPCno3
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Nothing about socialism says one person can't live in a fucking castle while another person lives in a small one bedroom apartment.
It doesn't just not work in reality, Marx and Engels themselves state it is impossible to get socialism to function. Third fucking page of the communist manifesto
socialsim isn't communism; economy vs governance
The fundamental problem to socialism is government competence.
It's such a glaring problem that anyone who understands a thing about government in practice will laugh their ass off when some NEET suggests that socialism will fix everything.
There's a reason it's viewed as the eternal revolution
@Reprehensibletrash circles can have corners in theory if you never take it off paper
i disagree
because you can't tell me how socialism would work in terms of ITSELF
only can tell me what it is NOT
that isnt' a definition
Jesus, you don't get it.
Exactly like capitalism, but the state owns everything.
That's the ONLY fucking difference.
@randomNPCno3 boundaries and corners aren't the same thing
@ManAnimal socialism is one party control of all revenue streams
not exactly like capitalism
That way the state can readily reallocate resources and account for externalities in business decisions, because in every decision the state eats all the externalities whether positive or negative.
cause it wouldn't be driven by capital interests but by social interests
it would be fundamentally different
people wouldn't have the same motivation to work for a livng
Not currently but I have somewhat read up on that, right now its Carlo Michelstaedter, he partially inspired Evola @Ϻ14ᛟ
@Reprehensibletrash I said corners for a reason. Paper math works on paper but not always in the real world , same for socialism. Works only paper ONLY
or take on more risk
@Arthur Grayborn interesting that you don't have a single example of such a system, yet claim to know the inner workings
@ManAnimal - Why do people work for a living now?
Why should anyone at Walmart give a damn if they don't own the corporation?
Simple: They get fucking paid.
so they can earn capital and use that capital to p urchase what the want and need
they work and get what they want
no work? no house no food
Implying that the same would not be true under socialism.
@randomNPCno3 imagine if AOC wrote in the first three pages of the green new deal, that her ideas are completely asinine and non-functional. Would you still consider it to work in theory...?
No work, no house or food.
Work harder, get nicer house and better food.
but it isn't a discrete
Because that's literally how Engels and Marx wrote it
They admit the complete lack of even theoretical function
8 hrs as a doctor isn't 8 hrs as a mcdonalds employee
Yeah, exactly.
@Reprehensibletrash no, her plansl look like they were written by a child. She shouldn't be in government
Under socialism doctors could still have mini-mansions while McDonalds employees live in small apartments.
so... again, if they are the same then why work?
and if they aren't the same salary who determines who makes what?
who gets to determein value
I agree with that opinion, but that doesn't really answer the question. If the writer themselves admits they're defying all reality, how can you take their theory as even practical on paper?