Message from @Spooky Melon

Discord ID: 603681102523138103


2019-07-24 20:10:17 UTC  

I'm not talking about the Stietals

2019-07-24 20:10:23 UTC  

That was not exactly bad, because they were sent there only after they did something criminal, or went against tsar, or were nicke-and-diming locals

2019-07-24 20:10:26 UTC  

salonica had many jews too

2019-07-24 20:10:32 UTC  

then germany happened

2019-07-24 20:10:44 UTC  

@2K the were the majority

2019-07-24 20:10:49 UTC  

They

2019-07-24 20:10:57 UTC  

At least they were not much disadvantaged by being reloacated, as opposed to being jailed

2019-07-24 20:11:13 UTC  

@Uksio I'm pretty sure that was in effect for all Jews.

2019-07-24 20:11:22 UTC  

Anyhow

2019-07-24 20:11:41 UTC  

Many jews that were good to tsar remained in the heart of russia with no issues

2019-07-24 20:11:48 UTC  

It's completely different in western Europe and in the Ottoman Empire

2019-07-24 20:11:52 UTC  

Being a jew was not in itself a crime

2019-07-24 20:11:58 UTC  

@Uksio useful Jews?

2019-07-24 20:11:58 UTC  

@Uksio ok fucker

2019-07-24 20:12:15 UTC  

Albeit russia always was casually antisemitic, but mostly on a banter level though

2019-07-24 20:12:32 UTC  

Wow you guys bullying jews smh

2019-07-24 20:12:45 UTC  

Well, the Ukrainians were the real the anti-Semite

2019-07-24 20:12:58 UTC  

ruskyes were antisemite too

2019-07-24 20:13:02 UTC  

like proper anti semite

2019-07-24 20:13:05 UTC  

Yeah...

2019-07-24 20:13:10 UTC  

everybody was

2019-07-24 20:13:13 UTC  

jews were big gai

2019-07-24 20:13:14 UTC  

in fact everyone was

2019-07-24 20:13:16 UTC  

until ww2

2019-07-24 20:13:21 UTC  

Ukrainians got too many of jews sent to them, a lot of them for the crimes (usually economic or trade related crimes)

2019-07-24 20:13:21 UTC  

But the Ukrainians beat them.

2019-07-24 20:13:25 UTC  

aside from maybe georgia

2019-07-24 20:13:55 UTC  

Tsar was not sending the best jews to Uraine, as Trump would put it

2019-07-24 20:13:57 UTC  

@Uksio no, it was there when Ukraine was part of the Polish Commonwealth

2019-07-24 20:14:16 UTC  

@Tato and Denmark, and Albania

2019-07-24 20:14:27 UTC  

ye

2019-07-24 20:14:59 UTC  

Bogdan lived during the commenwalth years...

2019-07-24 20:15:35 UTC  

And he's know in infamy here.

2019-07-24 20:15:40 UTC  

Well not here

2019-07-24 20:15:46 UTC  

In the different parts of pre-partition Poland the Polish-Jewish relations ended up looking quite differently: they were the worse in the Prussian part and the best in the Austrian part. And this appears to be largely because of the way the Jooz tended to react to Polish nationalism which, as time went by, ended up being the most defining factor in Polish politics. In the Prussian part, where the Jewish enlightenment was in full force, the Jooz largely assimilated with German society (ironically enough) and had no interest in allying themselves to the Poles who didn;t want to assimilate. In the Austrian part the Jews were largely left alone by the government and a lot of them ended up going quite isolationist (though there were also some stories of integration into the Imperial apparatus as that was seen as a good thing by the Habsbourgs, though not enforced). this lead to them being far more inclined to support Polish nationalist causes, especially since the Habsbourg tactic in Galicia was to pit the Polish and Ukrainian nationalist against one another, and the Jooz preferred the Polish one for a plethora of reasons. In the Russian Empire the situation was more complicated, but indeed the Russian Empire did enforce segregation. The Russian part is also where all the major Polish uprisings took place and the Jewish community understandably didn;t want anything to do with that for understandable reasons (on top of religious reasons) so they alienated *both* sides by not choosing either side basically.

2019-07-24 20:15:49 UTC  

In the Jewish folklore.

2019-07-24 20:16:14 UTC  

i dont speak essay

2019-07-24 20:16:26 UTC  

I'm not speaking to u, so it's fine nigger

2019-07-24 20:16:37 UTC  

understandable, have a nice day

2019-07-24 20:17:29 UTC  

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM well, the Germans pursed a very... Strict... Germanisation policy...