Message from @ManAnimal
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Its not marxist socialist in any sense
the Supreme Soviet party in the USSR had 'ownership' in the same way as the Capitalist elietes
no difference
Ok lenin
no
I get it "state capitalism" meme
lenin had nothing to do with the 1980 soviet union
Nigger lenin said the same shit in 1920
even 80 yrs later
and that same 'shit' DIDN"T HAPPEN
it was a dream
If youre reffering to state capitalism/democratic socialism
Thats what lenin said
someone MUST be in charge under ANY system
and those in charge are ALWAYS going to be tempted by corruption
what about it
thus thos in the soviet party CONTOLLED the state property
Thats why marx viewed production capitalism differently later in kife
Yes
Lick my nips
that is the opposite of the argument Marx made
@BabaBooey you've been told to stop with the incesent memes in this channel by Jack
Yes i fucking get that
Thats because they have a state
The state is the de facto property owner
contolling propery = ownership; Marx didn't beleive this to be true
Socialism is supposed to be the transatory state into communism
communism is what the soviet union WAS
and it wasn't ideal even by their own admission
socialism is an ideoplogy
Why do you guys even talk about this?
it's not the same because the incentives of capitalists and the proletarian vanguard are different and the structure of lower levels of management are different
Soviet union was socialist
communism is a form of governance
It's the same, every day.