If youre reffering to state capitalism/democratic socialism

Thats what lenin said

someone MUST be in charge under ANY system

and those in charge are ALWAYS going to be tempted by corruption

what about it

thus thos in the soviet party CONTOLLED the state property

in the same way that a capitalist OWNS the property

Thats why marx viewed production capitalism differently later in kife

Yes

Lick my nips

that is the opposite of the argument Marx made

@BabaBooey you've been told to stop with the incesent memes in this channel by Jack

Yes i fucking get that

Thats because they have a state

The state is the de facto property owner

contolling propery = ownership; Marx didn't beleive this to be true

Socialism is supposed to be the transatory state into communism

communism is what the soviet union WAS

and it wasn't ideal even by their own admission

socialism is an ideoplogy

Why do you guys even talk about this?

it's not the same because the incentives of capitalists and the proletarian vanguard are different and the structure of lower levels of management are different

Soviet union was socialist

communism is a form of governance

It's the same, every day.

And argued by lenin, state capitalism

You all look retarded.

Communism is abscence of governance

lenin used state capitalism in reference to the nep which was abolished in the late 20's

UWU

Communism is anarchism

the nep was more like what china has now

Lol

Communism is not anarchism.

^^

It is