@Arthur Grayborn I don't think these examples are very well chosen...

@Samaritan i thought they exist just for pretty PR purposes, they sure lost there spine ever since that one time in the 90's when they told Serbia to go fuck themselves

Creeping federalism is definitely the way to describe it

all of the higher ups want an army and they are talking about it openly

ofc they are talking about it

they've been talking about it for decades

you just haven't been listening

lol

and now u discover it

like it were something new and spooky

But this is how the EU operates

the EU

scope creep

is not a geopolitical force

They push centralisation across the board. If they can't get 100, they'll take 10

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM - There are exceptions, but they tend to be just that. Germany tore up a lot of the guild monopolies in the mid 1800s, which is why their economy was able to catch up to England before the 20th century started. The United States had a revolution, which set us "back to zero" on regulation and government control.

The breakup of the Soviet Union did the same with Russia and Eastern Europe, but the EU has been quickly changing that.

it is a club f geopolitical forces

I don't even care about the EU army I'm still stuck sperging that they DARE to make even a single law for member states

It -never- goes backwards

@shrikeclaw lets be real the EU will be really fucking stupid trying to start a war with Poland and Hungary given those countries can still call upon a certain eastern nuclear power for help, and that's assuming NATO doesn't tell them to go shove that idea in a place where the sun don't shine

They won't start a war in a member states

The EU doesn't do ANYTHING on its own

they don't start a war, they occupy it with a "friendly force"

it only does what the strong members make it do

They'll take advantage of external and internal events

if they CAN

@Eccles - It's something I've brought up to gun control advocates from time to time.

"You always increase the restrictions on guns. When have you EVER loosened the reigns on gun control? Even something symbolic like short barreled shotguns would be huge progress."

you are saying what they would like to do

not what they can do

those are not the same

not relevent, dear

anyway

they never row back

so it doesn't matter if any single step succeeds

I'm a go

Ur autism makes my neurons die

they are strangling the lower class and the lower class know it

Why would gun control advocates want to roll back anything, Arthur?

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM - The problem isn't so much the success or failure of any given attempt, just that some of those attempts do succeed and once in place bureaucracy only dies in revolution.

the Yellow Vest protests