Message from @Holo

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2019-07-24 14:14:23 UTC  

I have much higher standards for black women than white women, as I strongly prefer whites over blacks out of an equal number of picks.

2019-07-24 14:14:48 UTC  

I know this is just me, but it never hurts to confirm my own bias 😉

2019-07-24 14:14:54 UTC  

TFW you miss a majority of the discussion and now feel alienated <:konatacry:351776320134447115>

2019-07-24 14:15:25 UTC  

Well, there's absolutely no doubt that whites and blacks self-degregate in the US

2019-07-24 14:15:41 UTC  

self-segregate*

2019-07-24 14:16:44 UTC  

Anyways, my only point in this entire matter is that it's not racial discrimination, it's just profiling. A white person can't racially discriminate against a white person I think(? I have second thoughts on this so if someone could counter that please) so the entire matter revolves around profiling instead which can have a subset of profiling that is based on race

2019-07-24 14:16:45 UTC  

The reason why the US is such a good place for this type of research is because so many other factors are equal, like language.

2019-07-24 14:17:00 UTC  

Well we're also really fucking big

2019-07-24 14:17:29 UTC  

Also we have a diverse set of test subjects to choose from that all come from various backgrounds, and enviroments

2019-07-24 14:18:22 UTC  

Well, the chance of it not being true is tiny, I mean. Sure you can bet on that small chance, but I don't.

2019-07-24 14:19:37 UTC  

My argument is that it's important to accept racial discrimination as part of human nature, otherwise we'll never be able to move forward. The ideological stance that it can be eliminated is just that - ideological. It will not work, and it can make things worse.

2019-07-24 14:20:52 UTC  

1) Racial discrimination is probably indeed part of human nature
2) The US is a God awful place for this research for the reasons I outlined in my wall'o'text. It's got way too much cultural noise surrounding this shit basically.

2019-07-24 14:22:01 UTC  

I don't agree that it's a bad place for this research. There's only bad research, bad methodology, bad standards, bad conclusions, not bad places.

2019-07-24 14:22:37 UTC  

If accounting for all factors and probabilities, it should be very valuable.

2019-07-24 14:23:33 UTC  

Ok, lemme rephrase it then: it's a place where measuring this shit is FAR harder then in many other places and measuring accurately to begin with is probably rather hard outside of doing so around non-contacted tribes anyway.

2019-07-24 14:23:52 UTC  

"If accounting for all factors and probabilities"
Yeah, ***IF***

2019-07-24 14:24:45 UTC  

Yeah I'd agree with that. The research in some other places would likely provide cleaner data.

2019-07-24 14:25:44 UTC  

The humanities are notoriously prone for error anyway, it's extremely hard to get conclusive research.

2019-07-24 14:26:06 UTC  

Add to that the bias of the researchers and reviewers.

2019-07-24 14:27:20 UTC  

I would agree that it's natural, but as per your original statement, i disagree that racial discrimination **on its own** is not beneficial
```ETBrooDLast Monday at 19:00
Racial discrimination is natural and evolutionarily beneficial, change my mind```

2019-07-24 14:28:03 UTC  

if you make that racial discrimination choice based on profiling then it might prove beneficial, but if you just say 'he's white, therefore X' or 'he's black therefore y' it's not

2019-07-24 14:28:45 UTC  

For example, a lot of dems are doing the former, where they look at someone see he is white and assume right off the bat that he's evil, despite the overwhelming evidence that disproves that. They aren't profiling, they are discriminating, which isn't beneficial

2019-07-24 14:29:29 UTC  

I was arguing for evolution, not for large-scale societal cohesion

2019-07-24 14:29:59 UTC  

Humans have not lived like this for 99.99...% of its existence

2019-07-24 14:30:26 UTC  

Rough estimate, could be quite wrong, but I hope you get my point

2019-07-24 14:32:25 UTC  

Basically, we're still cavemen, nothing has changed about us. Only our culture has changed, and with it our technological progress. That's about it.

2019-07-24 14:32:51 UTC  

We still bash each other's heads in, and we enjoy it

2019-07-24 17:44:40 UTC  

Fair enough

2019-07-24 21:02:42 UTC  

We have evolved a little - we can drink milk, have less hair, and bigger brains

2019-07-24 21:04:44 UTC  

@ETBrooD but that's like saying we haven't been able to develop our own thoughts and processes @ETBrooD. So, I don't agree with you. There is an element to our subjectivity. We are only attracted to that in which we are subjecting ourselves to. We have those things that are intrinsic. Then we don't get to play the force game like these Muslim communities have. Its not, by force, it's by subjectivity.

Objectivity on the other hand places us in a more advanced position because we are able to - adjust and adapt. Through reflective thought. Tolerance is the objectivity pathway in which we need to be rational about.

Rational fear @Tonight at 11 - DOOM is the thing that creates the opposing views of how we can discuss. However , when we turn that into something else, it becomes - discrimination.

Albeit , some people are not able to adapt to their environment. This part annoys me more than it annoys you because, yet again -: America - isn't the only country on the planet.

Everything that has a culture, omitts it's subjectivity on the masses and norms/trends are created. You're only beastialising the context by muddying the waters of "foreign looking " , when people - are meant to be territorial.

Its natural to be territorial . What's not fucking natural - is this ignoring of those whom aren't able to adapt and adjust into society's. That's a warning sign. Flagship SS orientation express.

2019-07-24 21:07:39 UTC  

@Eccles Not all of the white race has the same genetic traits. Unfortunately. I tried to discuss this before and the only person who would make you see sense is Someone who is scientifically based and as a part way scientist ... I can tell you the genetic makeup of certain people has a fault line and that's through mutations.

2019-07-24 21:08:42 UTC  

Indeed, it's a melting pot, I guess what I was pointing out that while most of the mutations are ancient and gradual, we have seen evolutionary changes on a relatively modest timescale

2019-07-24 21:08:51 UTC  

This is sickle cell disease, Crohn's disease e.t.c

2019-07-24 21:10:11 UTC  

Okay so no one is able to understand that the gene pool, needs to be mixed - because of genetic mutations. In order to eliminate them it would take generations and loads of blending of genes to make the perfect person.

2019-07-24 21:12:21 UTC  

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that's what you get for fucking your close relatives. In the gene pool arena . Hence why, a long time ago in America you needed to have a blood test before you got married, to see if you weren't a blood relative. It's illegal for a reason and it means there are birth complications and all sorts.

2019-07-24 21:16:40 UTC  

Now, back to the discrimination thing because the people who understand it correctly are @Fresh and @Holo who really got down to the fact that your going to be prejudice . Flagship SS orientation commences but it has consequences. Hence the reason why China, has birth problems now as well. Many of the women are Baron. Now, try and figure that one out. Why are they Baron? Was it because of the pressure of society ? Or was it because their parents secretly neutered their young girls ?

2019-07-24 23:29:44 UTC  

I definitely wouldn’t say tolerance and designing society with Ye ultimate goal of eschewing racism and even acknowledgement of genetic groupings is the “right” or “objective” path forward

2019-07-24 23:30:40 UTC  

name the places where inbreeding happens most

2019-07-24 23:31:15 UTC  

ayrab

2019-07-24 23:33:42 UTC  

why was i summoned

2019-07-24 23:34:03 UTC  

@☩ ✠ Valka ✠ ☩ we going by historical or present day