Message from @Hexidecimark

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2019-07-24 15:10:25 UTC  

I also pointed out several functional similarities but hey it's much simpler for you if you just ignore those

2019-07-24 15:10:27 UTC  

it is a meaningful similarity considering we live in Liberal states tbh

2019-07-24 15:10:43 UTC  

It doesn;t make them equivalent in general though

2019-07-24 15:10:52 UTC  

like what hexi

2019-07-24 15:11:03 UTC  

It doesn't make them identical, no, but they are similar

2019-07-24 15:11:04 UTC  

i believe you said "authoritarian"

2019-07-24 15:11:10 UTC  

I didn't

2019-07-24 15:11:20 UTC  

someone else did i suppose

2019-07-24 15:11:54 UTC  

I've gotta say though when did we get our first Liberal state exactly?

2019-07-24 15:12:00 UTC  

I noted the nationalization, unionization, means of gaining power, and welfare systems

2019-07-24 15:12:03 UTC  

depends how broad you make the term

2019-07-24 15:12:08 UTC  

Really simple fellas, founding-era Murica was the greatest point of any civilization ever

2019-07-24 15:12:44 UTC  

🇺🇸

2019-07-24 15:12:53 UTC  

Was that before or after slavery and the genocide of natives ended?

2019-07-24 15:13:01 UTC  

Before slavery

2019-07-24 15:13:06 UTC  

Ah

2019-07-24 15:13:17 UTC  

Around the time we kicked natives in the balls for being dicks

2019-07-24 15:13:29 UTC  

i mean nationalization and the welfare state are predicated on the presence of a centralized state which they are opposed to, and the means of gaining power in regards to anarchists and fascists have historically been different

2019-07-24 15:13:43 UTC  

i mean if anything the way in which anarchists and liberals have gained power are more similar to eachother

2019-07-24 15:13:51 UTC  

both originated via revolutionary means

2019-07-24 15:13:53 UTC  

well look at how it was accomplished and then consolidated

2019-07-24 15:13:59 UTC  

fascists gained power by working within the systems

2019-07-24 15:14:04 UTC  

in italy and germany

2019-07-24 15:14:10 UTC  

Anarchists are just Liberals who take themselves seriously tbh

2019-07-24 15:14:18 UTC  

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2019-07-24 15:14:24 UTC  

Anarchists are ppl on pipe dreams

2019-07-24 15:14:25 UTC  

the organization of labor could be a similarity

2019-07-24 15:14:33 UTC  

Hence why you always see em as ancaps or ancoms

2019-07-24 15:14:45 UTC  

They have an idea of society *must* be

2019-07-24 15:14:48 UTC  

>AnPacs

2019-07-24 15:14:50 UTC  

First and foremost

2019-07-24 15:14:53 UTC  

First they found a target class, then they applied force to convince people to support them, then they consolidated and eliminated points through which opposition could be brought into existence

2019-07-24 15:15:06 UTC  

And then think their "form of anarchy" will achieve that

2019-07-24 15:15:14 UTC  

i mean how is this any different from how liberalism operated

2019-07-24 15:15:20 UTC  

When anarchy really just has one "form"

2019-07-24 15:15:33 UTC  

Jews, brown shirts, and unions/electoral procedures in this case

2019-07-24 15:15:42 UTC  

Ye, anarchists are cringe and gay. But That's how Liberalism looks like when you takes it's tenants seriously.

2019-07-24 15:15:52 UTC  

Heyyyy

2019-07-24 15:15:55 UTC  

I like Locke

2019-07-24 15:16:17 UTC  

Locke is ridiculous

2019-07-24 15:16:27 UTC  

No u