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@Coolitic sure
the similarity that is being pointed out here between the two (antifa and fascists) is just that both engage in illiberal applications of violence
I mean
I also pointed out several functional similarities but hey it's much simpler for you if you just ignore those
it is a meaningful similarity considering we live in Liberal states tbh
It doesn;t make them equivalent in general though
like what hexi
It doesn't make them identical, no, but they are similar
i believe you said "authoritarian"
I didn't
someone else did i suppose
I've gotta say though when did we get our first Liberal state exactly?
I noted the nationalization, unionization, means of gaining power, and welfare systems
depends how broad you make the term
Really simple fellas, founding-era Murica was the greatest point of any civilization ever
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Was that before or after slavery and the genocide of natives ended?
Before slavery
Around the time we kicked natives in the balls for being dicks
i mean nationalization and the welfare state are predicated on the presence of a centralized state which they are opposed to, and the means of gaining power in regards to anarchists and fascists have historically been different
i mean if anything the way in which anarchists and liberals have gained power are more similar to eachother
both originated via revolutionary means
well look at how it was accomplished and then consolidated
fascists gained power by working within the systems
in italy and germany
Anarchists are just Liberals who take themselves seriously tbh
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Anarchists are ppl on pipe dreams
the organization of labor could be a similarity
Hence why you always see em as ancaps or ancoms
They have an idea of society *must* be
>AnPacs
First and foremost
First they found a target class, then they applied force to convince people to support them, then they consolidated and eliminated points through which opposition could be brought into existence
And then think their "form of anarchy" will achieve that
i mean how is this any different from how liberalism operated
When anarchy really just has one "form"
Jews, brown shirts, and unions/electoral procedures in this case