no they say Putin is liberal

Big doubt

Communism, not socialist.

There's a difference?

In theory yes

>in theory

I'm glad we both understand

we all know how well theory, communism and socialism go together

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Socialism is the means to lead towards communism

communism by definition has no history, or future it exists in the eternal now

it requires a blank slate (extremist behaviourist) that believe that it would be possible to erase the ability for humans to desire more and strive (creating inequality)
Communism seeks a utopia akin to the 'garden of Eden' but we would have to be stunted (intellectually) to enjoy that garden.

communism by definition has no history, or future it exists in the eternal now
> Communism has millions of deaths under it's belt...

Fact.

that is socialism

Mhm

Soviet union dipshit.

to be frank with the definitions

Stalin, and gulags.

i hope you realise i am advocating against both socialism and communism, but a "communist" would say that it is not true communism b.c "true communism doesnt have a govt" socialism is seen as the road to communism

yes i have read the gulag archopeligo

the communists see the soviet union as a transition state before the communist utopia

b.c the "true communism cannot occur while capitalism still exists"

every prominent ideology has millions of deaths under its belt

Capitalism does not

You have to be really blind of context to apply blame in such a way

But, what else would I expect

From som1 with a statue as their pfp

lol

even belgium has millions of deaths under its belt

by itself

\>statue as pfp

\>immediate brainlet with hipster beliefs

It is more important how and why deaths were caused ie did the govt seize hold of all aspects of the economy?

@Death in June are you including natural deaths, deaths not considered 'natural', or a combination of both? Because that first one kinda increases the scales to a massive extent

what constitutes a "natural death"

@Coolitic you just have blatant double standards

Have....you never seen (or heard of) the phrase "death by natural causes"?

do you....like seriously live under a rock or something?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_natural_causes