i hope you realise i am advocating against both socialism and communism, but a "communist" would say that it is not true communism b.c "true communism doesnt have a govt" socialism is seen as the road to communism

yes i have read the gulag archopeligo

the communists see the soviet union as a transition state before the communist utopia

b.c the "true communism cannot occur while capitalism still exists"

every prominent ideology has millions of deaths under its belt

Capitalism does not

You have to be really blind of context to apply blame in such a way

But, what else would I expect

From som1 with a statue as their pfp

lol

even belgium has millions of deaths under its belt

by itself

\>statue as pfp

\>immediate brainlet with hipster beliefs

It is more important how and why deaths were caused ie did the govt seize hold of all aspects of the economy?

@Death in June are you including natural deaths, deaths not considered 'natural', or a combination of both? Because that first one kinda increases the scales to a massive extent

what constitutes a "natural death"

@Coolitic you just have blatant double standards

Have....you never seen (or heard of) the phrase "death by natural causes"?

do you....like seriously live under a rock or something?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_natural_causes

What double standards?

I have never stated my standards

This just proves my assessment correct because you are so blatantly projecting lmao

@Death in June basically, ur momky

"deaths by natural causes" are often included in death tolls because policy can affect the rate at which people die from them

you don't need to explicitly state them

because it is essentially inconceivable that you could make the claims you are making without having double standards

Libtard destroyed

With fax and logic

Watch as he runs away with a spell of mental gymnastics!

Just remember kids, real capitalism has never been tried before.

Well capitalism actually destroys nations culturally in my opinion because it creates consumer culture where you are just a cog in the machine for profit and gain from people you dont know and a product that has short term value.

That is why we have smartphone addiction and suicide today as the culture has been degraded to the value of the material and not the people as a group where we can benefit each other and reach a single objective goal.

People need something to be a part of and feel valued in the mean time and get a benefited result at the end

Like what?

For example, JFK brought america together to go to the moon (yes it was a response to the Soviets), but it gave people something to aim towards and it brought the country together and gave it a purpose because everyone agreed on it and it created real patriotism and nationalism.

https://youtu.be/zR38CtjD__o

In terms of today, I think for europe we should get rid of the large banks that control all the money and basically put countries into debt as well as getting rid of the euro because it has cause so much economic ruin in Greece as they have some of the highest unemployment the country has ever seen.

@Great Britain The erosion fostered through capitalism is deliberate. Look up the pioneers of propaganda and the advertisement industry. They deliberately work to subvert natural identity and replace it with brandings.

Without these advertisers, and without the assumption that all peoples are basically interchangeable, there wouldn't be nearly so much of a corrosive impact.