>Destiny getting ass-fucked in a debate

@Monstrous Moonshine that isn't news, he gets slapped around by anyone with an even-remotely cogent argument

He is strong on some issues

And this is the first time he lost in a gun debate

He did well against some others in gun debates

He got fucked by Metokur pretty hard tbh

>imagine thinking you won't do crime if you realize you can get away with it

on Sargon's three arrows video:
I'm regularly making this statement:
"it's been 100 years since our monarchy ended and since then, we managed to have three murderous ideologies in charge of our country and society, accepted and embodied by the majority of Germans." each of those times, it was the opposite of another murderous ideology, which Germans tried to distance themselves from...
so, I am simply not sure if Germany CAN ever fully adopt that which isn't radical...
Germans might just be the most maniacal people in existence... and exactly that mania drives them to unbelievable heights, but also to the deepest pits of hell. balancing it would likely mean having to go back to monarchy. to establish someone/something to keep the most radical tendencies in check, something no republican/democratic system seems to be able to do.
I currently see no other way to do it, even though I would like to...
little bit of trivia: there was more freedom of speech under the Kaiser, than there is in Germany today.

not sure if I am correct, but I cannot find another possible solution...
what I am nearly certain of is: we need a decent relationship with the British. as soon as the British broke with tradition (marrying a German and having their honeymoon in paris... at the head of an army, ofc), it all went to shits.

Germans just need to drop their idiotic meta-narrative

they arent responsible for anything their ancestors did, no one is, period

@Cesare Anasazi
at the same time, things like where they live and their born-into wealth isn't random, but inherited from their ancestors. so wouldn't the question then be: "how much of the blood tied to this wealth, this land, this knowledge is inherited?"
saying it is random would de-value the achievements of their ancestors. AND it is used to justify the horrendous immigration policy.

You would need to elaborate or rephrase question, I dont get what you are asking.

Please dont write a whole novella here

I mean: it is quite clear, that it is NOT luck, that you were born where you were born and into the living standards into which you are born, as that is the direct consequence of the actions of your direct ancestors...
so, they reap the rewards for what their ancestors did, inheriting the consequences of their positive actions.
I know it sounds stupid, but shouldn't they then also inherit the consequences of their ancestors' negative actions?
that is the question that is being asked in a lot of cases in Germany... most of the time indirectly.
I personally have to disagree with the notion, but if you want to stay completely consistent, it is a viable question to ask.

there's one other statement made in this specific context, actually even more frequently but the entire premise is incorrect:
1." it is luck to be born into Germany, others couldn't choose to be born into other circumstances, so it's not actually our wealth, it is randomly inherited" (completely disregarding the contributions of ancestry to wealth or poverty, usually while giving responsibility for negative actions)

nah I was just thinking of how to phrase it and if there's another statement on the topic which is frequently being made.

No one owes anyone anything just cause they were born in different places

agreed.

If my parents worked a lot and gave me their wealth as inheritance that's between me and them

period

like I said: I do believe, that you rightfully inherit the works of your ancestors.

If my father worked so hard he lost a thumb I dont need to lose one to inherit his wealth

What if your parents stole the wealth you inherited from them, from Jimmy's parents?

but with the good, shouldn't you also inherit the bad?
I do not think that you should, but it would be more consistent.

If they stole it, they should be punished. If it's proven they stole it and I was unaware I need to get back what's left but not penalized

If I stole something then gave it as a gift, person who has the gift doesnt deserve any punishment

You know that this is the argument for slavery reparations and the like, right?

No idea, I am russian, we're enslaved each other lol

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM honestly, all manners of aquiring wealth is viable in a historical context... we are kinda in a world where killing and stealing is quite natural...
in terms of societal norms, they should be punished, ofc. but the person doing the deed, not their children. problem is: you inevitably also punish the child, but I guess that is also then kinda their inheritance?

No one owes me shit except my boss

oh and Deezer

I pay them

xD

And when it comes to migration I am undecided yet

it is a tricky topic.

I think relaxed border is the best thing but only if country has no welfare period

and low regulations

how about only a social security net for citizens?

no clue, why countries give anything to non-citizens, honestly.

Under my preffered system there cant be one, really

Objectivism argues for exclusivly voluntary tax

I can understand that, but Germany actually went pretty well with one for a while...