I think relaxed border is the best thing but only if country has no welfare period

and low regulations

how about only a social security net for citizens?

no clue, why countries give anything to non-citizens, honestly.

Under my preffered system there cant be one, really

Objectivism argues for exclusivly voluntary tax

I can understand that, but Germany actually went pretty well with one for a while...

So only private charities

then it just got out of hand.

Well, it's a principle of the thing

yes

but as Sargon sais about liberalism: there are practical contradictions to some principles, which are viable in certain cases.

it may contradict the principle, but as long as you do not stray too far from it, and it is pracical, it is also viable.

I dont make distinction between morality and practicality

It is immoral to tax no matter how "practical" it might be

What I found particularly unsettling in the "We are Deutch" video Soygon talks about in his response, at least back when I first saw it back in the day, was how aggressive the "new Germans" were depicted to be. Especially considering the "backwards, bigoted" enemy were also depicted holding placards with politicians from foreign polities. I specifically remember Hungary and Netherlands.

No, look, when you've identified evil, you've cornered evil, it can't spring up somewhere else, it literally cannot physically manifest anywhere else in the world, because evil is a frail little creature that can only exist in one place. Thus Nazis evil, everyone else good. Unless you're for borders, then you're also evil, which means you're a Nazi. See? It works flawlessly.

I'm for borders but low regulation of them. I guess I am prat evil?

I think Soygon either makes the point you just called out - which makes him a moron, or is making an entirely different point tbh.

Not that Britbongs are immune to evil, but that this particular manifestation of evil wouldn't come very naturally to them because of cultural baggage. Which doesn't mean that others wouldn't.

I didnt watch that vid in entirety I literally fell asleep

It also so fucking boring it doesnt concern me

I actually disagree with Sargon that British people couldn't become Nazis

But not right now, because it requires a few more turnings of the wheel before it can happen

Again, I don;t think he's saying they couldn;t

Oh he sure as hell does

And if he is, then he is an idiot

British people sure as hell can turn to fascism, they arent immune to it

Multiple times he said that it's a uniquely German experience, the British people can't become Nazis because they don't have a "we English" experience, which is an incredibly weird argument (he goes into the language aspects of it, that argument is incredibly strange)

same as Botswanians can turn libertarian if persuaded

Nono he meant Nazism, not fascism

ok, maybe what he means is that if British turn natsoc they will make it into their own unique thing

That would make more sense yeah. In fact I do see "we English" becoming a thing, it's just the progressives that are doing it

It won't be a racial matter, at least not right now

The English are just the Jews of the sea anyway...

who cares tbh?

like I said @Tonight at 11 - DOOM the Germans are a maniacal people.

Well it matters because otherwise Sargon's argument is flawless. He deconstructs Three Arrows' world view so perfectly that he could just as well be holding an ideological mirror to his face.

Nation of zealots

they have the tendency to go off the rails, or concentrate on one single thing to where they follow it to its end conclusion.

which is exactly why I say that we had three murderous ideologies in 100 years.