Message from @Cesare Anasazi

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2019-08-04 18:03:22 UTC  

I'm confused

2019-08-04 18:03:31 UTC  

Based austria

2019-08-04 18:03:36 UTC  

I said I disagree with the statement that our achievements are disconnected from them

2019-08-04 18:03:58 UTC  

Austria is good for skiing

2019-08-04 18:03:58 UTC  

Genes mean nothing tho

2019-08-04 18:04:09 UTC  

what does that even mean

2019-08-04 18:04:12 UTC  
2019-08-04 18:04:23 UTC  

Uhhh

2019-08-04 18:04:31 UTC  

Tell that to a cystic fibrosis patient 🤣

2019-08-04 18:04:33 UTC  

if genes meant nothing, why do they decide basically everything?

2019-08-04 18:04:34 UTC  

Me and my brother have similar genes. I'm a rich engineer, he's a former drug addict now working as carpender

2019-08-04 18:05:07 UTC  

its not a binary

2019-08-04 18:05:08 UTC  

alright guys I gotta be off.

2019-08-04 18:05:08 UTC  

I didnt mean that genes mean nothing in every context, they dont mean anything in *moral* context

2019-08-04 18:05:12 UTC  

How do you know you have similar genes?

2019-08-04 18:05:42 UTC  

yeah and that is why it is important to differentiate.

2019-08-04 18:06:04 UTC  

Wait a second

2019-08-04 18:06:12 UTC  

My point is that no matter the blood-relations involved, people are solely responsible for their own actions

2019-08-04 18:06:43 UTC  

Legally, morally, yes, but not otherwise

2019-08-04 18:07:14 UTC  

explain the "otherwise" in here

2019-08-04 18:07:39 UTC  

It has been well studied that drinkers produce drinking offspring

2019-08-04 18:08:10 UTC  

That's irrelevant to the current conversation

2019-08-04 18:08:19 UTC  

Our actions are very strongly affected by the actions of the people around us

2019-08-04 18:08:20 UTC  

lots of things are hereditary

2019-08-04 18:09:01 UTC  

I didnt deny hereditary natre of genes, I denied that I owe anything to someone or should be proud of him simply cause we have similar genes

2019-08-04 18:09:16 UTC  

Ok that sounds different

2019-08-04 18:09:30 UTC  

@Cesare Anasazi then you missed my entire point and all the statements I made on the topic.

2019-08-04 18:09:41 UTC  

misread them I mean

2019-08-04 18:09:58 UTC  

Are you proud of your family?

2019-08-04 18:10:08 UTC  

I did not say anything about moral connections here.

2019-08-04 18:10:25 UTC  

There is nothing to be proud about my family

2019-08-04 18:10:55 UTC  

lol

2019-08-04 18:11:12 UTC  

Thankfully I am not connected to their actions anyway

2019-08-04 18:11:30 UTC  

??

2019-08-04 18:11:32 UTC  

Objectivist is a descendant of Stalin I bet

2019-08-04 18:11:59 UTC  

Someone does something for me -> I adjust my behavior and do something for them -> they do something for me in return
Thus pride for someone else's actions

2019-08-04 18:12:08 UTC  

Or achievements w/e

2019-08-04 18:12:28 UTC  

I don get how I can be proud of their actions here

2019-08-04 18:12:38 UTC  

Only pride that is possible is if I myself did something well

2019-08-04 18:12:39 UTC  

If you contributed to their success