I am not trying to "delude" anyone. I am stating my opinion

Which statement?

"achievements are largely disconnected from our forefathers"

@The Objectivist Dollar then make a statement of opinion, not of fact.

Well, illustrate how am I connected to my grandgrandfather who was a baker in russian empire then killed by bolsheviks in USSR

Like I said, I disagree with that statement, too

you may reject the way your forefathers acted, or disagree, or say that they're morally disconnected from you, but you cannot say, that their actions are disconnected from you.

What other connection other than moral, is there

We have similar genes, that;s about it

that is more than enough.

I'm confused

Based austria

I said I disagree with the statement that our achievements are disconnected from them

Austria is good for skiing

Genes mean nothing tho

what does that even mean

@Cesare Anasazi really?

Uhhh

Tell that to a cystic fibrosis patient 🤣

if genes meant nothing, why do they decide basically everything?

Me and my brother have similar genes. I'm a rich engineer, he's a former drug addict now working as carpender

its not a binary

alright guys I gotta be off.

I didnt mean that genes mean nothing in every context, they dont mean anything in *moral* context

https://tenor.com/view/trolololololololol-gif-8138060

How do you know you have similar genes?

yeah and that is why it is important to differentiate.

Wait a second

My point is that no matter the blood-relations involved, people are solely responsible for their own actions

Legally, morally, yes, but not otherwise

explain the "otherwise" in here

It has been well studied that drinkers produce drinking offspring

That's irrelevant to the current conversation

Our actions are very strongly affected by the actions of the people around us

lots of things are hereditary

I didnt deny hereditary natre of genes, I denied that I owe anything to someone or should be proud of him simply cause we have similar genes

Ok that sounds different

@Cesare Anasazi then you missed my entire point and all the statements I made on the topic.

misread them I mean

Are you proud of your family?

I did not say anything about moral connections here.