Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM

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2019-08-11 18:53:57 UTC  

Britain was laboring under the assumption Poland was going to be on Hitler's side until a few months before the war

2019-08-11 18:54:26 UTC  

What do you mean?

2019-08-11 18:54:33 UTC  

I mean what I said

2019-08-11 18:54:45 UTC  

the Polish guarantee was issued very late

2019-08-11 18:54:54 UTC  

because Poland asked for it

2019-08-11 18:55:18 UTC  

What do you mean by Poland was going to be on Hitlers side

2019-08-11 18:55:19 UTC  

up until then the Brits were convinced that the Poles have made a deal with Germany

2019-08-11 18:55:30 UTC  

I'm not saying they were gonna be on his side

2019-08-11 18:55:38 UTC  

I'm saying the British thought so

2019-08-11 18:56:49 UTC  

remember that Polan annexed a smol bit of Czechoslovakia when Hitler took them over

2019-08-11 18:57:58 UTC  

this wasn;t a super clear situation

2019-08-11 18:58:15 UTC  

many decisions were made reactively to unfolding events

2019-08-11 18:58:41 UTC  

plus countries had internal politics to consider as well

2019-08-11 18:58:56 UTC  

did the wrong side win ww1 doom

2019-08-11 18:59:04 UTC  

especially France and Britain where the populations were very unwilling to go to war

2019-08-11 18:59:21 UTC  

there was no wrong side in WWI

2019-08-11 18:59:58 UTC  

the problem with WWI was that the winners didn;t finish it

2019-08-11 19:00:20 UTC  

so the losers thought they could try for another round

2019-08-11 19:01:33 UTC  

the problem with WW1 was the winners used it as an excuse to shit on the losers for 20 years making the losers justifiably very angry.

2019-08-11 19:02:17 UTC  

Versailles. Was. Being. Progressively. Lifted.

2019-08-11 19:02:40 UTC  

The Brits and Mutts were unhappy with it hurting Germany too much

2019-08-11 19:02:58 UTC  

so they pushed for easing the sanctions

2019-08-11 19:02:58 UTC  

and delaying payments

2019-08-11 19:03:25 UTC  

is this like that one machiavelli quote

2019-08-11 19:03:33 UTC  

the sentiment you're expressing

2019-08-11 19:03:37 UTC  

The only ones to be hard line were the right wing French gov.s left wing gov.s in France were pro-rapprochement too.

2019-08-11 19:04:09 UTC  

The French got punished for it

2019-08-11 19:04:24 UTC  

>the French were idiots
shocking

2019-08-11 19:04:32 UTC  

they weren't

2019-08-11 19:04:39 UTC  

they were acting in self interest

2019-08-11 19:05:09 UTC  

the brits were not afraid of weakening Germany too much cause that is mean

2019-08-11 19:05:25 UTC  

they were afraid of that because that would give too much power to France

2019-08-11 19:05:34 UTC  

on the continent

2019-08-11 19:05:36 UTC  

BALANCING is what Albion does

2019-08-11 19:06:46 UTC  

to be fair to the brits, a weak Germany means that the French start acting like assholes

2019-08-11 19:07:09 UTC  

it's just cold geopol

2019-08-11 19:07:31 UTC  

and they probably didn't want to have to come over there and waterloo their asses

2019-08-11 19:08:01 UTC  

it's about keeping the island safe

2019-08-11 19:08:10 UTC  

and that is best done

2019-08-11 19:08:22 UTC  

doom would you rather have a french dominated continent or a german dominated continent

2019-08-11 19:08:26 UTC  

when there is no one capable of having a strong fleet on the continent