Message from @Arrias

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2019-08-12 16:23:30 UTC  

Refering to someone who is MtF as He is not reinforcing the ideal body

2019-08-12 16:23:40 UTC  

and causes further strife between the real and the ideal

2019-08-12 16:23:45 UTC  

@Arrias The treatment does not go to that scope, nor would it.

2019-08-12 16:23:51 UTC  

The treatment is provided by medical professionals

2019-08-12 16:23:51 UTC  

Weez persons that are gender questioning on average grow out of that and become gay. are you saying that being gay is wrong?

2019-08-12 16:23:53 UTC  

that's what it currently IS

2019-08-12 16:23:55 UTC  

Not tribunals.

2019-08-12 16:24:13 UTC  

Medical professionals like Money?

2019-08-12 16:24:19 UTC  

@D3bug_logic Nope, I'm not saying that's wrong

2019-08-12 16:24:39 UTC  

People can decide how to progress how they want

2019-08-12 16:25:00 UTC  

They can happily be gay, or look for other solutions

2019-08-12 16:25:03 UTC  

If they want to.

2019-08-12 16:25:04 UTC  

its a lie and a lie makes people weaker, making the community weaker

2019-08-12 16:25:11 UTC  

Serious question: in the simplest terms possible, what is the current "treatment" for gender dysphoria?

2019-08-12 16:25:17 UTC  

in your understanding

2019-08-12 16:25:20 UTC  

Depends on the person.

2019-08-12 16:25:22 UTC  

(based on john moneys work)

2019-08-12 16:25:27 UTC  

There's no one universal treatment.

2019-08-12 16:25:32 UTC  

Different treatment works on different people.

2019-08-12 16:25:39 UTC  

generally accepted

2019-08-12 16:25:40 UTC  

Therapy works for some.

2019-08-12 16:25:44 UTC  

Cross dressing for others.

2019-08-12 16:25:53 UTC  

Or hormone and operation.

2019-08-12 16:26:01 UTC  

It's all about the individual person.

2019-08-12 16:26:17 UTC  

cross dressing, hormone, and operation all are about reinforcing the Ideal body over the actual

2019-08-12 16:26:19 UTC  

and what about gender conversion regret?

2019-08-12 16:26:30 UTC  

therapy is what I'm arguing for

2019-08-12 16:26:31 UTC  

What about it?

2019-08-12 16:26:54 UTC  

I agree, we can have more therapy

2019-08-12 16:26:55 UTC  

you have claimed that all of the sucide is due to social stigma

2019-08-12 16:26:59 UTC  

A large amount of trans people do get it.

2019-08-12 16:27:01 UTC  

so if reinforcement of the ideal is the goal, then pronouns are key to that "treatment"

2019-08-12 16:27:07 UTC  

hence it requires outside reinforcement

2019-08-12 16:27:10 UTC  

But in some countries it's harder to get it

2019-08-12 16:27:28 UTC  

Again, it works for some people, but not for others

2019-08-12 16:27:33 UTC  

if I refer to a MtF as "he" I am damaging that "treatment"

2019-08-12 16:27:35 UTC  

It's about the individual.

2019-08-12 16:27:47 UTC  

Not really, no.

2019-08-12 16:27:54 UTC  

...

2019-08-12 16:28:04 UTC  

I really have no idea how you can possibly come to that conclusion