Message from @Arrias

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2019-08-12 16:25:04 UTC  

its a lie and a lie makes people weaker, making the community weaker

2019-08-12 16:25:11 UTC  

Serious question: in the simplest terms possible, what is the current "treatment" for gender dysphoria?

2019-08-12 16:25:17 UTC  

in your understanding

2019-08-12 16:25:20 UTC  

Depends on the person.

2019-08-12 16:25:22 UTC  

(based on john moneys work)

2019-08-12 16:25:27 UTC  

There's no one universal treatment.

2019-08-12 16:25:32 UTC  

Different treatment works on different people.

2019-08-12 16:25:39 UTC  

generally accepted

2019-08-12 16:25:40 UTC  

Therapy works for some.

2019-08-12 16:25:44 UTC  

Cross dressing for others.

2019-08-12 16:25:53 UTC  

Or hormone and operation.

2019-08-12 16:26:01 UTC  

It's all about the individual person.

2019-08-12 16:26:17 UTC  

cross dressing, hormone, and operation all are about reinforcing the Ideal body over the actual

2019-08-12 16:26:19 UTC  

and what about gender conversion regret?

2019-08-12 16:26:30 UTC  

therapy is what I'm arguing for

2019-08-12 16:26:31 UTC  

What about it?

2019-08-12 16:26:54 UTC  

I agree, we can have more therapy

2019-08-12 16:26:55 UTC  

you have claimed that all of the sucide is due to social stigma

2019-08-12 16:26:59 UTC  

A large amount of trans people do get it.

2019-08-12 16:27:01 UTC  

so if reinforcement of the ideal is the goal, then pronouns are key to that "treatment"

2019-08-12 16:27:07 UTC  

hence it requires outside reinforcement

2019-08-12 16:27:10 UTC  

But in some countries it's harder to get it

2019-08-12 16:27:28 UTC  

Again, it works for some people, but not for others

2019-08-12 16:27:33 UTC  

if I refer to a MtF as "he" I am damaging that "treatment"

2019-08-12 16:27:35 UTC  

It's about the individual.

2019-08-12 16:27:47 UTC  

Not really, no.

2019-08-12 16:27:54 UTC  

...

2019-08-12 16:28:04 UTC  

I really have no idea how you can possibly come to that conclusion

2019-08-12 16:28:06 UTC  

It's about how they themselves feel.

2019-08-12 16:28:11 UTC  

Regardless of how society sees them.

2019-08-12 16:28:16 UTC  

wrong

2019-08-12 16:28:27 UTC  

@D3bug_logic Go talk about your SJW councils elsewhere

2019-08-12 16:28:34 UTC  

your perception of yourself by nature is affected by others perception of you

2019-08-12 16:28:42 UTC  

Not always, no.

2019-08-12 16:28:49 UTC  

These people clearly don't see it that way.

2019-08-12 16:28:54 UTC  

Very clearly.

2019-08-12 16:28:55 UTC  

they absolutely do

2019-08-12 16:29:03 UTC  

No, no they don't.

2019-08-12 16:29:07 UTC  

by the very existence of the Tribunal @D3bug_logic is refering to

2019-08-12 16:29:09 UTC  

They see themselves as in the wrong body.

2019-08-12 16:29:15 UTC  

@Weez you clearly stated that sucides in transcommunity is based on perceptions, and now are denying them