Message from @The Electric Lizard

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2019-08-04 01:09:15 UTC  

The monopoly of violence is not removed it is just spread to local areas

2019-08-04 01:09:16 UTC  

depends

2019-08-04 01:09:37 UTC  

You are just moving the monopoly around, You are not actually removing it

2019-08-04 01:09:41 UTC  

they may also have had nobles under their control who ALSO had privileges the Lord could not infringe upon

2019-08-04 01:10:03 UTC  

how is it a monopoly if no single body can do everything?

2019-08-04 01:10:48 UTC  

Not to mention you had ecclesiastical Lords

2019-08-04 01:10:59 UTC  

who were also responsible before the Pope

2019-08-04 01:11:04 UTC  

a foreign entity

2019-08-04 01:11:06 UTC  

It is a monopoly in their local area, Its a different type sure, But the result is the same, The government body whether they be many or few having the right to inflict violence

2019-08-04 01:11:40 UTC  

one body might have the right to inflict violence on person a in a given region, but not on person b

2019-08-04 01:12:09 UTC  

So your plan is just to split up the monopoly into local areas?

2019-08-04 01:12:35 UTC  

no, I'm asking you why isn't it your plan is you dislike monopolies and think that competition is a good thing

2019-08-04 01:12:46 UTC  

this clearly encourages competition and is less of a monopoly

2019-08-04 01:13:13 UTC  

(I'm also meming as HARD as I can, if you haven't noticed)

2019-08-04 01:13:34 UTC  

(I tend to do that to lolbertarians)

2019-08-04 01:13:40 UTC  

Monopolies damage the economy, Just look at Fascist Italy for example which is a good example, Mussolini wanted one company to be responsible for one thing which led to their being no innovation since the companies had no competition

2019-08-04 01:14:09 UTC  

Again, regurgitated talking point, not addressing my very serious idea

2019-08-04 01:14:34 UTC  

What is your main idea then?

2019-08-04 01:15:21 UTC  

I'm asking you why are you not ok with decentralizing the state if you dislike monopolies

2019-08-04 01:17:15 UTC  

I am to an extent, I would prefer for the economy to just run itself however there would be times when the government should intervene and the government is better suited to do that if it is not completely decentralised

2019-08-04 01:18:05 UTC  

I support some Decentralisation however the State should still have the power to stop monopolies

2019-08-04 01:18:26 UTC  

why couldn't the intervention be done on a local level, by the local authority so that there can be competing models within the country itself. Surely you are for competition?

2019-08-04 01:19:16 UTC  

Because local areas don't have the power to prevent a National Monopoly like Google for example

2019-08-04 01:19:24 UTC  

why not/

2019-08-04 01:19:27 UTC  

just ban it

2019-08-04 01:20:24 UTC  

Because they simply don't have the influence, A group of largely decentralised counties will not have the same influence as a largely centralised state

2019-08-04 01:20:53 UTC  

what do you mean by influence?

2019-08-04 01:21:03 UTC  

there is lots of counties today that ban FB

2019-08-04 01:21:15 UTC  

you don need to be ultra powerful to just ban something

2019-08-04 01:21:23 UTC  

They can't influence the economy enough if they can just effect it in their local area

2019-08-04 01:21:44 UTC  

well, but there is a lot of local aread

2019-08-04 01:21:47 UTC  

areas

2019-08-04 01:22:06 UTC  

if 30% of them decide to ban something, surely it's gonna have an impact

2019-08-04 01:22:11 UTC  

and if the ban was a good idea

2019-08-04 01:22:23 UTC  

then those areas are gonna see positive change

2019-08-04 01:22:24 UTC  

Your assuming that they would all agree to stop the monopoly

2019-08-04 01:22:31 UTC  

they don't have to

2019-08-04 01:22:34 UTC  

as I said

2019-08-04 01:22:45 UTC  

banning something is extremely ez

2019-08-04 01:23:08 UTC  

If 30% decided to ban it would have an effect sure, but the monopoly would still have substantial power

2019-08-04 01:23:20 UTC  

but not on their territory