Message from @whiic
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Also, the state church has toyed with the idea of functioning as sanctuary for deportees. Imagine why I'm fucking anti-theist, incl. anti-Christian.
These are institutions doing bad shit and inspiring bad shit.
Imagine having a state religion for starters.
Well, Britons have that too.
I've seen footage of police raides on churches that hide illegal immigrants, which of course right now mostly includes Muslim immigrants.
Even in modern day, religious institutions like churches still hold too much sway out of favor of older laws.
They get to ignore new laws in some circumstances
And still "deus vult" is solution, when Christians **are the problem to begin with**?
Churches
They are not the source problem. Humanity is always going to be the source problem.
Our nature is an issue of source, but there's no fixing that
I can sympathize with the misanthropic take on the issue.
We've repeated our history for over 10,000 years in terms of society
I can't find the footage, should've saved it, but it was years ago. Church raids are happening though, so the churches are acting against the government, proving that some of them think the immigration laws are against their faith.
I found one article that shows these raids are happening even in some European countries.
https://www.savemysweden.com/police-raid-the-church-of-sweden-for-illegal-muslim-immigrants/
Some Christians believe that no man should be stopped from travelling across a border, I don't know the exact justification for that though since I don't care to read the bible, but I could ask my father who is quite a knowledgable Christian.
I think it's the sanctity of life argument, but that seems like a stretch
Must be something else
Well I guess the only real conclusion is that Christianity itself is neither for nor against illegal immigrants, it depends on the individual's interpretation of the Bible. Maybe one side is in fact correct and the other is not, but currently there is no consensus. So we can't really say Christians are either allies or enemies in the fight against Islam.
Except that the side that is an "ally" in fight agaisnt Islam is also in fight against atheism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
So it's either slay the unbeliever, or not.
And if not, they are pro-Islam because they worship the **same God**.
So, as an atheist, Christianity is a problem either way: either they ally with Islam and provide them a shield from critique (whether by blasphemy law or by soft tyranny of social acceptance)... or they want me dead.
Either way, Christinity is my enemy.
(I don't say it's equal enemy to Islam. Islam is priority.)
Christianity is not pro-Islam just because they share their God worship
The sacred text, i.e. Bible and Quran, are fundamentally different
I didn't say Christianity is pro-Islam. I said, in cases when they are anti-Islam, they tend to be anti-atheism.
And when I'm their enemy... I'm sorry: they are also my enemy,.
**I'm not a cuck like you.**
I'm not sure who's the greater enemy for Christians, Islam or atheists
How so?
It wouldn't surprise me if Islam was a greater threat to them, because most atheists are agnostics, not anti-theists
Islam on the other hand is straight up anti-Christianity
I don't even know why you even need to ask that. Atheists aren't suicide-bombing people, throwing them off buildings, whipping them, or hanging them--solely because they're gay.
Even agnostic atheists can be anti-theists.
I know, but most atheists or agnostic atheists are not anti-theists
Gnosticism is ridiculous to begin with. You cannot know of supernatural, by definition.
Hence gnostic atheists and gnostic Christians claim to know what they cannot perceive.
The point is, atheists by and large aren't out to destroy Christianity, they typically have a live and let live mentality