I'm not gonna try to abolish taxes, I know it won't happen

that's not what i'm trying to convince you of

only two things are certain in life: Death, and taxes

I just want socialists to back off and stop for a second

They have done enough damage already

ubi isn't socialist

I dont mean what i said was a good idea, just a fun thought experiment.
No usefull people would be on ubi because they would be bought or get a job, who would buy a cripple/useless person as a slave?

Yes it is

no, it isn't

Holy fuck

the purpose of ubi is not to make everyone's outcome the same, nor is it to nationalise the means of production

Ok explain to me how UBI is capitalist, or neither capitalist nor socialist

Ubi is just a way of redistributing money

the purpose of ubi is a pragmatic alternative to the current arrangement of welfare + tax allowances

nothing capitalist or socialist about it

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I have read the dictionary definitions of socialism enough times to know what it means

so you're against people working now, since that's a means of distributing capital

Redistribution of wealth is one of the two main ideas of socialism

Socialism has two pillars that it rests on to be socialism

1) Collectivization of the means of production
2) Redistribution of wealth

UBI = redistribution of wealth

Ive debated this with you before, not doing that again😄

Yeah cause you lose

I know my shit

lol

lets keep it at: agree to disagree

Wrong

>_>

There's an objective truth to it, you're wrong

dont tempt me

Try me

😂

objective truth

everytime you buy something, or give to charity, you're redistritbuting wealth

dont even

You can laugh all you want, you have no argument

everytime you are paid, every time you pay tax

socialists want to redistribute wealth in order to achieve EQUITY

Thanks for explaining how socialism works Eccles

You're wrong about one thing already by the way