Message from @ETBrooD
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Pack animals also know not to steal. No god taught them this through a great revelation.
Not stealing is people realizing that society works better if they don't steal
It's not a moral imperative, it's a utilitarian one
They already knew in the bible that there was war and there were problems with religious fractions.
Christians steal as much as atheists do
@Lios That's horseshit, or goatshit to be more precise. Goats have no concept of boundaries, they will eat anything.
It's just instinctual. The gold standard is pretty much the only natural dogma we can apply.
what ever dude ... it is in the bible
They knew slaying and slaughtering of animals----- halal or kosha was wrong
Goats are not pack animals, they are herd animals.
Wolves know damn well when they steal, and often try to hide the evidence. Showing they know instinctually that it is wrong.
Pack animals, carnivores if you want to be precise, have instinctive knowledge of territory and personal belonging, they will growl at you if you try and approach their food. They know what stealing is and guard against it.
They also steal. Nature is fallible.
This is all structural things that will come back into society again if people read and start to discuss.
I don't trust religious people with morality, because they don't justify their morals with reason, but with "muh book"
So you'd rather your morality come from people who say that all white people are racist?
Because that's what we're getting.
Strawman
Do they have a rational basis for this reasoning to make it as a moral argument?
It is a material example of the alternative.
No it is not.
Again I am going to tell you that freedom of thinking, and your conscience is mentioned in the bible, more than 1000 times. I wil help restore that for you . I will show you 1 Corinthians chapter 10 again;
** The Believer’s Freedom **
``23 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive. 24 No one should seek their own good, but the good of others. 25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26 for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.” 27 If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28 But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. 29 I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? ``
Yes it's a strawman
A moral basis must be rationalized, and a rationalization must be agreed upon by the greater society.
This is all to help you find an ethical path
No read
We see what "morality minus muh book" is doing. ANd it's hypergamy.
@TEABAG!!! I don't think anyone is reading these excerpts
No they didn't
No, Christianity exploited illiteracy, and power dynamics. At least in the western world.
The east didn't give a _fuck_
But yeah, that's a way to moralize things. By forcing people's rationality.
@ETBrooD I will do it again for you
** The Believer’s Freedom **
```23 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive. 24 No one should seek their own good, but the good of others. 25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26 for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.” 27 If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28 But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. 29 I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? ```
Morality is not inherently a good.
I won't read it @TEABAG!!!
Morality is individual.
What are you doomers talking abiut today?
It's like you guys don't even know that Protestants exist. Christianity made people literate like nothing else has.